Pro Men, Matt Orum - Matt with 18 wins in 23 events had another great year. He is one of the top players in the world, and always showed support for the Southern Nationals. Pro Women, Michelle Cornelius - finishing with 18 top three finishes in 19 events, also held onto a 1 point victory in the points race last year. Am Men, Philip Tait - Philip with 24 events and finishing 2nd in the points race. Philip is one of the nicest guys You will meet on the course, and is always pushing himself to get better. His attitude and dedication to the SN earned him the POY award. Am Women, Dee Dee Fussner - finishing with 15 top threes in 15 events in her first year of tournament play. DeeDee then went on to Win the SNAC and finish 3rd in the SNPC. It will be fun watching this new face fight it out in Open Women in the future. Sportsman, Brooks Newell - Just this weekend Brooks drove all the way from Baton Rouge to Mobile just to help with the SNPC, He stayed out in the hot sun spotting all weekend, plus brought several water kegs and tents for shade. Brooks has been along time supporter of the SN and was well deserving of the Sportsman Award. Volunteer, Bill Tyler - Bill not only been one to help out TD's anyway he can at several events, but has also been the guy behind the camera taking thousands of pictures all over the SN. With so much time dedicated to the SN, He more the deserved the Volunteer Award. Tournament Director(s), SouthSide - If You have ever been to a Southside events You would know why they earned this award. Very well ran events, free lunches that should be call buffets with the amount they cook, and huge payouts that have made the Smack Down one of the biggest events in the SN. Southside had simply done an outstanding job year after year. http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229160#msg-229160 Sat, 18 May 2013 00:29:16 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229879#msg-229879 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229879#msg-229879 Discdodger333 General Discussion Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:45:43 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229567#msg-229567 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229567#msg-229567 bryan griffin General Discussion Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:21:13 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229546#msg-229546 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229546#msg-229546 Discdodger333 General Discussion Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:19:00 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229539#msg-229539 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229539#msg-229539
Maturity and the player's treatment of our series should remain part of the selection, imho

And this is not a shot at Aaron or anyone else.....heck the "best" player already has his stacks of discs and trophies....

Back in the day these awards were considered for the "ambassadors of our series"........WAY back in the day there were Bud Hill awards in the Memphis area of the same nature - they usually went to the volunteersthat worked the most on the area courses, TDs that sacrificed thei time and efforts for the sport they love, and to the players that would take the time to teach younger players and expand the sport's participating audience.....

But I do agree that clarity of what the award is tailored for would be an improvement if provided by the BoD....]]> bryan griffin General Discussion Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:15:58 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229518#msg-229518 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229518#msg-229518 Johnathan Nyce General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:24:15 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229515#msg-229515 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229515#msg-229515 Discdodger333 General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:50:05 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229502#msg-229502 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229502#msg-229502

No Low Putt Lloyd Wrote:
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> You're such a Hypocrite.
>
> You tell Wayne "Wayne, when you get into it, you
> like to make personal shots at every opinion that
> you post." when right above to take a gab at me
> "You placed DFL out of all of the golfers that
> completed all rounds in the SNAC in ADV. "
>
> Why does my placing have anything to do with it?
> Did you look further into my record and see where
> i bounced back and got 1st in my next event, are
> you butt hurt from sham and I whooping up on you
> in Tupelo?
>
> Why didn't you play in the SNPC? I'm sure you
> would have beat them all.................
>
> You have never ran a tournament before yet you
> always seem to comment on how they should be ran
> better, you always have a comment but never take
> action. What have you done for the SN land
> besides negatively comment on every little thing?
>
>
>
> And yes to settle the argument Head is correct.
> Aaron Sims dominated the series and should have
> won it hands down.]]> dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:35:20 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229500#msg-229500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229500#msg-229500 -------------------------------------------------------
> I work as a CNC Programmer, the only way we can
> solve issues is communicating over the internet.
> Sometimes it turns into arguements but we never
> call people names. Most decisions in companies
> have pros and cons and it will always cause
> issues.


Arguments or arguing over the internet is still retarded.

That is my opinion.



]]> wayneacree General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:18:32 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229499#msg-229499 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229499#msg-229499
You tell Wayne "Wayne, when you get into it, you like to make personal shots at every opinion that you post." when right above to take a gab at me "You placed DFL out of all of the golfers that completed all rounds in the SNAC in ADV. "

Why does my placing have anything to do with it? Did you look further into my record and see where i bounced back and got 1st in my next event, are you butt hurt from sham and I whooping up on you in Tupelo?

Why didn't you play in the SNPC? I'm sure you would have beat them all.................

You have never ran a tournament before yet you always seem to comment on how they should be ran better, you always have a comment but never take action. What have you done for the SN land besides negatively comment on every little thing?


And yes to settle the argument Head is correct. Aaron Sims dominated the series and should have won it hands down.]]> No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:17:30 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229498#msg-229498 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229498#msg-229498 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:01:56 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229497#msg-229497 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229497#msg-229497


]]> wayneacree General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:35:41 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229495#msg-229495 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229495#msg-229495 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:24:49 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229493#msg-229493 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229493#msg-229493
If this award was made to go to the Top am player of the year stats wise, then Sims should have won it. It shouldnt be based on personal feelings toward anybody. Aaron was the am player of the year. No disrespect to Phillip. He is a really cool guy but stats wise Aaron was way above anyone else in any am divisions]]> head General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:17:46 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229492#msg-229492 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229492#msg-229492 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:17:29 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229490#msg-229490 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229490#msg-229490 wayneacree General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:52:23 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229489#msg-229489 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229489#msg-229489 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:51:25 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229488#msg-229488 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229488#msg-229488 wayneacree General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:49:18 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229485#msg-229485 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229485#msg-229485 No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:31:22 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229483#msg-229483 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229483#msg-229483 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:51:28 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229482#msg-229482 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229482#msg-229482 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:37:01 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229481#msg-229481 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229481#msg-229481
Second we all know that with stats like 34 events and 19 top 3 finishes that should be enough to take the award home, personal feelings aside. The gap between second and third in adv is extremely small. One could argue that third should have been considered given that he more top 3 finishes in less tournaments and they had the exact same winnings which to the naked eye means that third won better, more quality tournaments, and if given the opportunity to play as many as tournament as second place, third would have easily triumphed. And since you brought up score again, third place]]> No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:02:08 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229474#msg-229474 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229474#msg-229474
If you really respected phillip and liked him as a person, you wouldn't keep bringing this issue up.

On the scores issue, I have a higher rating than rivers in open. I am not near as good as rivers in my opinion.]]> dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:29:06 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229470#msg-229470 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229470#msg-229470 No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:59:42 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229451#msg-229451 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229451#msg-229451 TheZinger General Discussion Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:12:04 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229438#msg-229438 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229438#msg-229438





]]> Bluff Magee General Discussion Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:10:39 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229432#msg-229432 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229432#msg-229432 No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:15:21 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229429#msg-229429 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229429#msg-229429 RobbyHarris General Discussion Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:02:06 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229428#msg-229428 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229428#msg-229428 cox3 General Discussion Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:29:12 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229427#msg-229427 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229427#msg-229427
How is the POY awards actually determined? Just a vote by the BoD? Is it based on all factors points, events, top finishes? Or is it based on the BoD opinions and feelings towards certain individuals?

You also have this thing called Score that is on the players stats sheet and it states " The SN score is an attempt to try and determine who the top disc golfer in a division is despite the number of events they attend."

Top 4 Adv Scores
1) 34.26
2) 13.04
3) 15.61
4) 24.22

Top 4 Am Scores
1) 32.77
2) 31.95
3) 37.47
4) 29.29

Something seems obvious there

What about the idea of players voting on who the player of the years should be? Could be a weighted system of player votes and BoD votes. I know I spoke with Pat Barnes about this after the SNAC and I've heard him mention this on another thread, so can this be put into action?]]> No Low Putt Lloyd General Discussion Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:57:31 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229398#msg-229398 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,229160,229398#msg-229398
Southside, I am not on here to put down any individuals on THIS thread but I just believe some were more deserving than a couple who won. Some people got snubbed, that's life I guess. Even Bob Barker gets snubbed.]]> Dillon Gourley General Discussion Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:41:25 -0500