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        <description>Let me get is started with a shout out to DD and Cam. USDGC BABY! BOOM!!</description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ you guys are just making your post count higher..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:34:57 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It is Brad, it's more than I ever won off one tournament in my pro disc golf career. Even when I cashed at the 2003 USDGC I think it was only about $315. Oh did I bring up that I cashed at the USDGC again??? It never gets old. Never! LOL LOL LOL Cody do you want my autograph? <br />
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Speaking of old, Cody must have been about 12 years old the last time I cashed at the USDGC. And might not have been old enough to walk when I TD'ed my first event! But do remind me Cody that I have a lot more to do before I can say I did anything at all.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The Performance Editon wasn't my idea. They just asked me to help figure out how to do it. I played in it last year but I'm kind of neutral on the format personally. But I did get to play in the USDGC even though I had played 10 years ago with a sponsor exemption. <br />
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Innova wanted to feature what DGU leagues could provide via the Performance score (handicap) approach. They also needed to come up with an alternate divisional idea to play along with Open that would be a fair way to allow all kinds of players to participate in the event to see what the USDGC was all about AND not have to play in Open. <br />
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Discraft already had the Amateur Championship and the PDGA had the regular divisions covered at both Worlds. The Performance Edition format was the answer to meet their goals. Despite the controversy, mostly from those familiar with the Open format, it seems like the Performance Edition is coming close to meeting their goals. Now all they need is to get a little closer PE competition than they've had so far.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cgkdisc</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:24:50 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Everything USDGC</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Regardless if u like Bluffs or not Codyroberts, he's done lot more than most people for this sport!  Just sayin!! I just loooked at last place cash and it was 800 and thought it was a lot.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Brad Wells</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:10:56 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It's all good Chuck. I really appreciate that you can take a good ribbin' from someone who just can't take things too seriously. And I especially appreciate it that you understand players like me who don't enjoy the &quot;Performance Edition&quot; USDGC based on ratings that you are so much a part of. You (and  Mr. Serious) might not believe this but I really do respect your opinions too. Even that one time when you said that an OB surface belongs to another dimension or whatever that thread was that drove me bonkers for a week!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:40:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <dc:creator>codyroberts18</dc:creator>
            <category>General Discussion</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:14:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Everything USDGC</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yep, ya got me. I should have inserted the word &quot;those&quot; (bolded in my statement below) to indicate I was only referring to those players who shot the 1008 average rated rounds with the last place payout of $800 this year compared to $475 for the same rating in 2010. Feel better?<br />
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&gt; Nothing more Chuck? I love you man but that's not<br />
&gt; what you said. What you did say was actually<br />
&gt; something more LoL:<br />
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&gt; cgkdisc Wrote:<br />
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&gt; &gt; That would indicate <b>those</b> Open<br />
&gt; &gt; players were paid better this year for the same<br />
&gt; &gt; performance as before. <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; That's just about as patently false a statement as<br />
&gt; I've ever seen you make. Well except for when you<br />
&gt; said &quot;nothing more&quot; one post later. Wow Chuck your<br />
&gt; truthiness is getting a bit squishier than usual!<br />
&gt; I guess not having anyone at the pDGA challenge<br />
&gt; your facts has made you think you can say just<br />
&gt; about anything! Chuck, we can get you back into<br />
&gt; sharper mental shape if you drop in here more<br />
&gt; often. Please make an effort to post here more<br />
&gt; often and we'll help you out.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cgkdisc</dc:creator>
            <category>General Discussion</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:57:00 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Everything USDGC</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ok Mr. Serious. I will take this sport more seriously. Teach me how to be as serious as you. Then one day I can earn a ton of money on the disc golf tour. Once every other year, I can win half as much at the USDGC as they used to win years ago. Just sayin']]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:27:48 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ See Bluff, that's your problem though. You post ignorant non sense on serious topics and it gets pretty old for people to get on these forums and see all your posts with stupid pictures that just ridicule people. You lashing Chuck for his comments which are pretty accurate isn't being too serious about disc golf in my opinion. It is using your keyboard to put people down who have done a huge amount more for the sport of disc golf than you ever have. It may be a joke when you posted that, but it gets old when you do it to almost everyone who posts on this forum. <br />
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Now back to the scheduled programming:<br />
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The USDGC seemed like it was a great event from the coverage. The only thing I noticed that was missing was huge crowd's. Maybe the coverage just didn't show the people watching the final round, but it seemed like there just weren't many people there watching throughout the week. I hope the USDGC improves upon some of the things they have done wrong, but I think they are still the most prestigious event in the sport. They did improve the performance edition a lot from last year, and that does show they are trying. <br />
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I wonder how many Schusterick can win? Could he push Climo's 5 titles? He seemed to rise to the challenge after Wysocki canned that eagle from about 300 feet on 13. Maybe he is proving he is the best in the world.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>codyroberts18</dc:creator>
            <category>General Discussion</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:24:30 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Aw Cody I guess I would be upset too if someone said I lived in Dillon's hometown. Can you be a little more serious though about disc golf please? I mean really, try and eat some more fiber or something, you seem to be a little clogged up over the whole sport. You do realize I was joking when I posted that picture of Romney?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:14:02 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Nothing more Chuck? I love you man but that's not what you said. What you did say was actually something more LoL:<br />
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&gt; That would indicate Open<br />
&gt; players were paid better this year for the same<br />
&gt; performance as before. <br />
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That's just about as patently false a statement as I've ever seen you make. Well except for when you said &quot;nothing more&quot; one post later. Wow Chuck your truthiness is getting a bit squishier than usual! I guess not having anyone at the pDGA challenge your facts has made you think you can say just about anything! Chuck, we can get you back into sharper mental shape if you drop in here more often. Please make an effort to post here more often and we'll help you out.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:03:11 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ You don't know where my hometown is obviously Bluff Magee. You may need to try and learn some things first before spewing your ignorance.<br />
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On the note, the USDGC seemed like it was a success from discgolfplanet.tv side. Their coverage was great with the fly over views of each hole.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>codyroberts18</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:59:37 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I was simply referring to the previous equivalent performance to the last place payout this year and the reason why 36 were paid. Nothing more. <br />
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There was more cash added to the purse this year both in absolute numbers and on a per player basis. Entry fee in 2010 and 2012 was $225. Total purse in 2012=$50,300-$13,050 entry fees=<b>$37,250</b> added. In 2010 total purse=$75,000-$41,625 entry fees=<b>$33,375</b> added. <br />
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That's $180.41 added per Open player in 2010 and a whopping $642.24 added per Open player in 2012.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cgkdisc</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:34:12 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ No Chuck, the numbers you state only serve to completely validate what Cam said. How can you say all Open players were paid better for the same performance when the top 5 were compensated much less? <br />
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Is math not your best subject anymore Chuck? Did you move to Dillon &amp; Cody's hometown?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:59:04 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ They always planned to pay 36 which is half of their planned full field of 72. The last cash player this year averaged 1008 rating and was paid $800. In 2010, the players who averaged 1008 round rating earned $475. That would indicate Open players were paid better this year for the same performance as before.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cgkdisc</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:43:00 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Maybe it'll take them a few times to get it right, sorta like the first performance edition...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dillon Gourley</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:30:19 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The payout didn't reward the people who shot well as much as years in the past, the payout rewarded the people who shot average. Only 58 ppl in the tournament and they payed 36th, $800. So, I made 500 dollars more than somebody I beat by more than 20 strokes and 27 spots better. That's odd in my opinion!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cam32092</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:55:10 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Innova never said the payout would be better if you look back at their statements after 2010 when they announced the change to Performance Edition. Many pros assumed/hoped the change meant it would be better in 2012. I suspected they would pay less than $10K for first unless new big sponsors entered the picture. I think now they just want their first place to be higher than Pro Worlds or any other Majors' first place (which it was).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cgkdisc</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:32:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Or maybe it was because the great No Team didn't run it since all of their events are top notch and flawless...right!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>codyroberts18</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:08:05 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Bluff, that might be because there were 127 less open players this year, or maybe they just did the payouts in the dark? Lol]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dillon Gourley</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:37:17 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Except when they went to this new dumb &quot;performance edition&quot; format they said the payout would be better. Substantially less payout than the 2010 edition when Will won $4,500.00 more for 1st place. 2nd place was $2,000 more in 2010. 3rd place was $1,500 more and 4th place was $1,000 more. So that's $9,000 less to the top 4 places than two years ago.<br />
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Just sayin']]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The payout for this is sweet(always is). Last place cash 800 bucks!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Brad Wells</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It sure looked like it, until those last two putts.  The short one on seventeen crushed him.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>wayneacree</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I thought Wysocki was going to come back with those 3 eagles he had]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Will S. took it in a TIGHT final round!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>wayneacree</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 15:56:07 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Cameron Colg..is making a move on Lacastro in the leader group - Cam. is presently in 4th by a stroke and can make the final leader group if he holds that position.  Lacastro has had some OB issues. Go Cam!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bryan griffin</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Jared is a realy good golfer with a lot of distance.  Everthing is in his range and that gives him a great advantage....didn't jared shoot like a 61 in one of his rounds?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dustin morris</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:22:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I agree with Clayton.  I played with him at Collegiate Nationals this past April.  I smoked him the final round because he was having consistency issues.  Jared has much more raw talent than most disc golfers, but Clayton was spot on that consistency has held him back.  Jared seems to be putting both aspects together and I hope he continues.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>hobbit489</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:57:39 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I do not think Jared's skill level is skewed<br />
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this is the kind of player he is - massively talented, but usually has consistency problems, just take a look at his tournament results<br />
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however, this course plays to his advantage really well because it is fairly open and he has a cannon for an arm - keep it in bounds and make some putts and you can shoot well here and that is what he is doing<br />
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once he improves his consistency, he will be among the better players in the game]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bazkitcase5</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Not in a row, otherwise I would have about 20 more wins, lol.<br />
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At this rate he will win by over 20 strokes, and on my book that's unacceptable for PE. Guess we will see.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dillon Gourley</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:28:59 -0500</pubDate>
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