I think the stupidest doubles format known to humankind is the abominably atrocious "combined score" format. It's where both players play singles and then their scores are added together. There's absolutely no strategy involved like worst shot or best score format, and one partner can't help the other in combined score. Plus it takes a lot more time than best shot. Combined score is probably the single most stupid idea ever dreamed up by some clueless TD who didn't think about how using this dumb format would ruin a doubles tournament. What do y'all think? http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233656#msg-233656 Sun, 19 May 2013 16:36:34 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233888#msg-233888 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233888#msg-233888 cgkdisc General Discussion Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:36:19 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233881#msg-233881 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233881#msg-233881 These two I think are good doubles formats. Gonna try them both. Thanks!

I agree with you John K. the combined score will separate the teams quickly.

I have run some SNDG Doubles Tournaments with the 666 in this order (Alternate Shot, Worst Shot (6 easy holes), Combined Score).
I like to do this on the 1st round. It immediately separates the teams out, strong to weak.]]> Teeple General Discussion Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:23:47 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233845#msg-233845 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233845#msg-233845 TheZinger General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:07:27 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233844#msg-233844 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233844#msg-233844
I will hold on to it till I see you

Happy Holidays

Dex]]> Dex General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:51:56 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233842#msg-233842 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233842#msg-233842 TheZinger General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:47:27 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233841#msg-233841 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233841#msg-233841
JOhn k]]> John K General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:41:21 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233835#msg-233835 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233835#msg-233835 Flyerbud General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:49:41 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233815#msg-233815 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233815#msg-233815 When I viewed the scorecards, the alternate shot is what damaged the players scores. They suffered in those 6 holes.

The year before we did Best Shot, Alternate Shot, Worst Shot..........and that created not only a huge back up, but players arguing, throwing a fit, etc . . . . in fact I know two partners that almost lost their friendship over it and can barely play on the same card. Just bad news all around on the worst shot.]]> Trackin01 General Discussion Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233801#msg-233801 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233801#msg-233801 fun of all the formats. As a TD, I would not consider them an option. Most fun wins!]]> Chunk General Discussion Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:12:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233781#msg-233781 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233781#msg-233781 Teeple General Discussion Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:13:14 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233773#msg-233773 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233773#msg-233773
W-O-R-S-T ---- SUCKS IN THE PUREST FORM!!!


you can never have a better shot than the first one thrown, yeah I know that is where the name comes from


Dex]]> Dex General Discussion Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:31:40 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233771#msg-233771 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233771#msg-233771 hudd General Discussion Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:37:17 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233763#msg-233763 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233763#msg-233763
However I really like combined score. It is a perfect test of the strength of a team. When there is a weak link you don't win. Choose your partner wisely.]]> BERNIE General Discussion Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:08:22 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233761#msg-233761 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233761#msg-233761 cgkdisc General Discussion Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:15:16 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233749#msg-233749 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233749#msg-233749 If your partner sucks it up, your score is the only one that counts.

Combined Score - if your partner sucks, you have to count it with your good score.
If you are both good, and both record birdies, you might make a 'Leap' forward in the competition if they only par-out.]]> Teeple General Discussion Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:30:29 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233748#msg-233748 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233748#msg-233748 DOUBLES FORMATS

Best Shot
Best Shot is by far the most popular doubles format. Both players throw from each lie (starting with the tee shot), and then the team chooses which of the resulting lies to continue play from, until the hole is completed.

*A team may take a reasonable amount of time to pick which lie they want before the 30-second play clock starts.
*A lie that is picked up without being marked is gone forever; the team must throw from the other lie. If the second lie is picked up, it must be replaced in accordance with PDGA rules. All lies must be marked with a Mini.
*If the first player throws from the wrong lie, the second player may still throw from the correct lie.
*In case of injury or disqualification, one partner may play alone, throwing one shot at each lie (essentially playing singles).

Worst Shot
Worst Shot is the most brutal of the doubles formats, and can test the patience of even the best teams. In Worst Shot, both players throw from each lie (starting with the tee shot), and then the competing teams in the group choose which of the subsequent lies will be used, with the aim of making the hole as difficult as possible. The hole is completed once both team members have holed out from the same lie.

*The 30-second play clock begins once the opposing teams have selected the lie.
*A lie that is picked up without being marked must be replaced in accordance with PDGA rules. All lies must be marked according to PDGA rules.
*Any warning or penalty incurred by a player may be chosen to apply to the team, at the opposing teams' discretion.
*A team found to be giving an opposing team a better lie will be disqualified for un-sportsmanlike behavior.

Tough Shot
Tough Shot is the same as Worst Shot, with the following variation: Once a player on the team has holed out, the team has completed the hole (No need for both players to make the putt).

Alternate Shot
In Alternate Shot, only one sequence of throws is made on each hole. The team selects a player to throw the tee shot at the beginning of the round. The other player then throws from the subsequent lie, and play alternates in that fashion until the round is completed. Alternate Shot is closer to a singles format, where one partner can't bail the other out. If you miss a short putt, chances are good that you'll be driving the next hole.

*If the wrong player on a team throws, another team must call it immediately, like a foot fault. The team receives a warning, and the correct player throws. Subsequent violations incur a one-throw penalty.
*For any violation that requires a re-throw (stance violation, provisional throw), the same player throws.

Best Score (Best Disc)
In Best Score (also known as Best Disc), each player plays the hole as they would while playing singles; there are no shared lies. The team score is the best score on the hole by one of its players.

*The player who is away will always throw first, with this exception: If both players are lying the same number of throws, the team may choose which player throws first.
*A player must pick up once it is impossible for him to better the team's score. The team incurs a warning for the first violation, and a penalty throw for subsequent violations.
*In case of injury or disqualification, one partner may play alone.

Combined Score
Each player throws their own disc, and the players scores are added together to make their team score.

*Using this format, both players have to play steady and consistent to post a great score. If both have birdies, you might have gained a stroke on another team, but if both players have bogies or worse, then your team might have fallen from 1st place to 5th place really fast.
*The player who is away will always throw first, with this exception: If both players are lying the same number of throws, the team may choose which player throws first.
*In case of injury or disqualification, one partner may play alone. The lone player has to throw two discs, from the tee-box, and must keep each disc's following throws and scores separate.

]]> Teeple General Discussion Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:18:26 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233734#msg-233734 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233734#msg-233734 niklpenny General Discussion Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:18:38 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233702#msg-233702 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233702#msg-233702 Bluff Magee General Discussion Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:14:09 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233688#msg-233688 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233688#msg-233688 jacques General Discussion Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:45:26 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233687#msg-233687 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233687#msg-233687 Dillon Gourley General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:21:38 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233686#msg-233686 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233686#msg-233686 cgkdisc General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:20:15 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233685#msg-233685 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233685#msg-233685 hobbit489 General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:52:37 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233684#msg-233684 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233684#msg-233684 m sidebottom General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:27:48 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233679#msg-233679 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233679#msg-233679 -------------------------------------------------------
> At least worst shot has strategy to it, combined
> is a waste...

This. Combined score is the one format with no strategy.... it isn't doubles.]]> cox3 General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:37:42 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233675#msg-233675 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233675#msg-233675 Bluff Magee General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:19:44 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233673#msg-233673 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233673#msg-233673 m sidebottom General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:11:17 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233670#msg-233670 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233670#msg-233670 Eric Day General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:05:09 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233667#msg-233667 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233667#msg-233667 head General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:14:59 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233658#msg-233658 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233658#msg-233658 Jack C. General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:39:09 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233657#msg-233657 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,233656,233657#msg-233657 cox3 General Discussion Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:23:55 -0600