Members in attendance: Eric Day, Zack Hudson, Allan Morrow, and Lloyd Wilkins Topic Ruling on what to do about issue of Dillon Gourley circumventing the rules purposely. - Voted 4-0, going by rule 7.2 in the rule book, to Suspend said player from the Intermediate Amateur division until June 1st, 2013 and the 2013 SNAC. Player will be allowed to play in the Advanced or Open division until end of season and Advanced only at SNAC. (Noted: Two members of the BoD wanted harsher suspension) - Voted 4-0 that if Mr. Gourley played in intermediate at any tournaments until suspension is over he will then automatically be suspended from playing ANY tournaments in any divisions until June 1st, 2013 and not be allowed to play SNAC at all. - Voted 4-0 to refund his money from Tupelo Ice bowl and his attendance be erased completely from said event in question. - Voted 4-0 that if in any event in the future a player decides to purposefully circumvent the rules that the punishment handed down maybe more severe than that given to Mr. Gourley, but no less than said punishment. http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236663#msg-236663 Sat, 25 May 2013 01:34:01 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237020#msg-237020 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237020#msg-237020 -------------------------------------------------------
> BRIAN B Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You must be typing on your government phone
>
>
> Thanks to this act of Congress
> Telecommunications Act of 1996. Most people are
> unaware that this has been going on for a
> loooooooong time.


And actually started during the Reagan administration (Lifeline Program - 1984).]]> contrast General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:32:39 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237017#msg-237017 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237017#msg-237017 dustin morris General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:13:37 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237013#msg-237013 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237013#msg-237013 -------------------------------------------------------
> You must be typing on your government phone


Thanks to this act of Congress
Telecommunications Act of 1996. Most people are unaware that this has been going on for a loooooooong time.]]> wayneacree General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:09:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237010#msg-237010 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237010#msg-237010 -------------------------------------------------------
> Give us a fresh list of who those TDs are Eric
> please sir:-)


66 of 78 tournaments paid / 3 overdue (past 60 days of tournament)

1. South MS Doubles Championship - Chris Grace
2. GCBC Doubles tournament - Byron Smith
3. 14th Annual Turkey Shoot - John Taylor

Updated - 26 Feb 2013]]> Eric Day General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:44:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237009#msg-237009 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237009#msg-237009 -------------------------------------------------------
> Took the BOD 6 days to take action when the
> Dilliongate were first brought to everyones
> attention. Kernan makes a statement that should
> concern everyone and he will be ignored(by the
> BOD) 19 hours in and counting!


There is another thread involving his question.]]> Eric Day General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:38:58 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237006#msg-237006 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237006#msg-237006 BRIAN B General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:12:12 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237005#msg-237005 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,237005#msg-237005 Flyerbud General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:51:50 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236995#msg-236995 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236995#msg-236995 BRIAN B General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:38:38 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236993#msg-236993 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236993#msg-236993 Brad Wells General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:31:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236990#msg-236990 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236990#msg-236990
nvm, I found]]> dustin morris General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:03:47 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236989#msg-236989 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236989#msg-236989 dustin morris General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:02:19 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236987#msg-236987 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236987#msg-236987 Discdodger333 General Discussion Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:44:36 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236983#msg-236983 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236983#msg-236983 -------------------------------------------------------
> I'm only curious about one thing...........has ANY
> TD been suspended or put on probation from hosting
> an event for no payment of fees.? Or is SN worried
> it will lose TD's from the series? Just a thought
> question here


2-3 T.D.'s are not able to host anymore events until fee's are paid. I'm a little behind on who they are, there is a thread about it somewhere. I'm about to look it up now.]]> Eric Day General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:21:31 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236982#msg-236982 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236982#msg-236982 Trackin01 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:51:22 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236980#msg-236980 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236980#msg-236980 ]]> Brad Wells General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:42:50 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236962#msg-236962 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236962#msg-236962
So now NO Team is getting all the benefits of advertising our tournaments here on SN for free! You see, I can assure you that my pet goldfish is not going to pay the SN fees for the PoG. But NO Team will get to say our next tournament is an SNQ, because it won't be NO Team that won't pay, it will be the pet goldfish that won't pay! The next tournament we'll let Dustin's dog be the TD, but hey, it's the TD and not the club so why not let our pets get the penalty from the SN?

It really is nice of the SN to allow us all to not ever send any fees in to be a part of this series. It's like our free Obamacare, what could possibly go wrong?]]> Bluff Magee General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:39:38 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236959#msg-236959 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236959#msg-236959 contrast General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:48:23 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236951#msg-236951 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236951#msg-236951
Eric Day Wrote:
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> Ya know maybe I'm crazy but I have only seen 3
> people turn down their finishing award in the 2-3
> years its been available. All 3 of them played Pro
> when the turned it down. Maybe its a bigger issue
> in the Northern SN.]]> dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:17:01 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236950#msg-236950 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236950#msg-236950 -------------------------------------------------------
> Ya know maybe I'm crazy but I have only seen 3
> people turn down their finishing award in the 2-3
> years its been available. All 3 of them played Pro
> when the turned it down. Maybe its a bigger issue
> in the Northern SN.


^^^^ I agree with you Eric, but I have yet to have a SN player turn down any prizes. I have however had a Pro player turn down cash in a PDGA event.]]> Trackin01 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:23:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236949#msg-236949 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236949#msg-236949 Eric Day General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:20:04 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236948#msg-236948 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236948#msg-236948 Discdodger333 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:09:16 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236947#msg-236947 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236947#msg-236947 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:23:34 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236945#msg-236945 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236945#msg-236945 Trackin01 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:51:19 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236944#msg-236944 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236944#msg-236944 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:47:37 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236943#msg-236943 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236943#msg-236943 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:46:51 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236942#msg-236942 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236942#msg-236942 Discdodger333 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:34:30 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236941#msg-236941 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236941#msg-236941 -------------------------------------------------------
> Ok first of all if its not a dual sanctioned
> tournament and you cash in pro you should have to
> take the money and become a pro...!!! Unless you
> plan on going to say am worlds then you have no
> reason at all to turn down cash unless you just
> want to be a bagger in your am division! !!!


It's a tough call there. In the past there were players who played pro in the Ice bowls where there were just two players and they cashed making them Pro. Their fault of course. As for saying your going to play am worlds...... It wouldn't matter unless it was sanctioned SN/PDGA Cam played Pro in SN I believe.

As for what Allan stated: denying prizes and cash might prevent any Amateur from trying that pro division. Why pay a higher price to play with possibly better players and cash but not take anything. I believe they won't play at all in pro]]> Trackin01 General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:33:06 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236940#msg-236940 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236940#msg-236940 -------------------------------------------------------
> Once you cash in a higher division, you shouldn't
> be allowed to move back down...ever.


Agreed...EXCEPT under the circumstances of injury or disability. This was done in the bicycle racing worlds...as long as you have an excuse(doctor's note), you can move down for rehabilitation purposes only. Start winning(cashing) you must move back up.

No baggers allowed, ever.]]> wayneacree General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:25:38 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236939#msg-236939 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236939#msg-236939 contrast General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:13:45 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236936#msg-236936 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,236663,236936#msg-236936 dustin morris General Discussion Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:08:39 -0600