The favorite doubles format discussion and a round of Alt Shot got me thinking about a way to mix Best Shot with Alt Shot and maybe end up with something that plays faster than Best Shot but doesn't suck as bad as Alt Shot. Anyway the idea is to use the alternate shot format but allow the second player to throw as an option. However, the twist is that if the second shot is taken, it must be used. My thinking was that if you get a shot that you like, you move on to the next shot and the other player throws. But, if you want to try to do better, the second player can throw with the potential penalty that if his shot is worse, you are stuck with it. The players would alternate on every throw on a hole, including the second shot. Tee shots would start over so that each player throws 9 tee shots. The decision whether to take the second shot must be made from the lie from which the first shot is taken (i.e., no inspection of whether the disc is OB or if the lie is good, etc). Example (375' hole with wood left, water right): Player A throws off tee 1 (team chooses to use first shot) Player B thows approach into edge of woods (team chooses to throw second shot) Player A throws second approach shot that bounces off basket and rolls into water. Player B holes out from lie at point of relief near water Player B throws off tee 2. The primary problem with Best Shot, in my very limited experience, is the speed of play (although it is my favorite format). When the first player's drive from 320' lands under the basket, leaving a drop in putt, the odds of the second player acing the hole are pretty slim, so why wait for him to size up the wind, choose a disc and make a throw. Even more time is probably wasted as teammembers both inspect lies that are 200' apart on different sides of the fairway. Also, this would help eliminate the practice of having the first player attempt to lay up on a longer putt to allow the second player to "go for it." This might still happen, but I'm guessing that forcing the team to take the second shot would make a team accept a first shot that was "good enough." One very good player could still cover for a poorer player, but no good "lay up" shots by the poorer player would take the pressure off the better player or allow the better player to make a more aggressive play without consequences for a mistake. Is this a new format or has anyone seen something like this? What would you call it, "Alt. Shot with Mulligan," "Alt. Alt. Shot"? Criticisms of proposed format? http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237460#msg-237460 Wed, 22 May 2013 22:00:08 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237741#msg-237741 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237741#msg-237741 Jazzcaster General Discussion Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:53:42 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237737#msg-237737 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237737#msg-237737 foolsarewe General Discussion Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:30:26 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237719#msg-237719 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237719#msg-237719
The play was rather quick, Flanacher is a 21 hole course, Kevin applied it during the 1st. round throwing from the shorter tees

the round was no slower than a regular singles round.

Also if someone is going to use the (play out of your partners bag) it needs to be a surprise

Dex]]> Dex General Discussion Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:32:23 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237710#msg-237710 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237710#msg-237710 Jazzcaster General Discussion Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:17:56 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237700#msg-237700 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237700#msg-237700 niklpenny General Discussion Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:30:10 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237668#msg-237668 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237668#msg-237668 -------------------------------------------------------
> I played in a tournament this past weekend which
> was quite interesting, holes 1 and 2 where switch
> bag with your partner, holes 3, 4, 5, 6 where
> alternate shot all the way thru so if you putted
> your partner drove. Holes 6, 7, 8, 9 where pick 2,
> as in you played 2 and your partner played 2, and
> hole 10 was worst shot with both you and your
> partner having to hole out. the rest of the holes
> where best shot


While a bit confusing, this actually sounds pretty fun if you could get everyone to follow the rules!!!]]> M Russell General Discussion Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:17:14 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237631#msg-237631 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237631#msg-237631 niklpenny General Discussion Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:42:43 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237516#msg-237516 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237516#msg-237516 Jazzcaster General Discussion Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:05:43 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237480#msg-237480 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237480#msg-237480
How about Multernate Shot for a name?]]> cgkdisc General Discussion Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:56:27 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237462#msg-237462 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237462#msg-237462 Jazzcaster General Discussion Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:48:25 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237460#msg-237460 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,237460,237460#msg-237460
Example (375' hole with wood left, water right):

Player A throws off tee 1 (team chooses to use first shot)
Player B thows approach into edge of woods (team chooses to throw second shot)
Player A throws second approach shot that bounces off basket and rolls into water.
Player B holes out from lie at point of relief near water
Player B throws off tee 2.

The primary problem with Best Shot, in my very limited experience, is the speed of play (although it is my favorite format). When the first player's drive from 320' lands under the basket, leaving a drop in putt, the odds of the second player acing the hole are pretty slim, so why wait for him to size up the wind, choose a disc and make a throw. Even more time is probably wasted as teammembers both inspect lies that are 200' apart on different sides of the fairway. Also, this would help eliminate the practice of having the first player attempt to lay up on a longer putt to allow the second player to "go for it." This might still happen, but I'm guessing that forcing the team to take the second shot would make a team accept a first shot that was "good enough." One very good player could still cover for a poorer player, but no good "lay up" shots by the poorer player would take the pressure off the better player or allow the better player to make a more aggressive play without consequences for a mistake.

Is this a new format or has anyone seen something like this? What would you call it, "Alt. Shot with Mulligan," "Alt. Alt. Shot"?
Criticisms of proposed format?]]> Jazzcaster General Discussion Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:27:51 -0600