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        <title>pro women's entry fees</title>
        <description>I am trying to gather statistics about pro-women preferences reguarding entry fees in tournaments.
 
Usually the open women's division is lacking in #s of participants which results in lack of $$ payed out.  The question is....Do you pro-women want to pay the same entry fee as the pro men?  It will simply increase the payout to the winner and increase the cost to the loser.....and as a person who has been both....I say it is worth paying more if it means that I have a chance to win more......and I would like the winner to feal as goodas possible about their win....and often if they win more money, they  feal better...just a thought.  

Let me know what you think.  The results aquired here will likely effect the entrance fees of the memphis dogwood classic in may.

SO LADIES PLEASE RESPOND......Leslie, Lori, Shannon, Marie, Stacey, Suemac, Marla, Judy, Cat, Karen, BJ, Rena, Selena, and anyone else who I forgot. (no I did not forget snap.....she has already voiced the fact that she agrees with me  :)</description>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ head Wrote:<br />
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&gt; I bet yall can with Horn Lake in the line up!<br />
<br />
<br />
HA HA HA HA!!!! I played both places yesterday......and I'm not gonna say any numbers, but I shot better at central park than I did at horn lake.  It's true that there are some shorter holes at horn lake, but the wind was a blustery 30mph, and there is A LOT of OB, and if you land in the woods, there aren't many outs, not to mention there is a 600ft hole with a parking lot to the left that is also OB.  I don't know about shooting down out there...but I guess anything is possible ;)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>*meghanf*</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:50:07 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I bet yall can with Horn Lake in the line up!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>head</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:06:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Again, tooooo cute!!! Hey, I thought of another course though that you would love....because shooting down is definitely possbile.  My hometown shortie....&quot;Brahan Springs&quot;.  If you do make it for the Hartselle Ice Bowl.  We need to go by and check that one out if you have time.  You would love it!  I know I do!<br />
<br />
Oh, and Southaven shooting down........in my dreams :)  But, I do love to dream :)<br />
Leslie E.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:35:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ SOUTHHAVEN!!! yeah right!!!!  I hope to shoot less than +10..lol, although I actually haven't played the course since southhaven showdown 1.  Which is, as I recently remembered, where we met, Leslie. (aaaawww isn't that precious)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>*meghanf*</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:33:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I bet yall can do it in Southaven!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>head</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:32:52 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ My first down ever in a tournamnet was there too!!!  We are tooo cute :)  Now we've got to find somewhere else that it is possible to shoot a whole tournament down at!  Let me know if know of anywhere :)  It's been almost three years....and I'm very sad :(  <br />
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Leslie E.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:17:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the compliment Cat...you're too nice :)<br />
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lesliez Wrote:<br />
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&gt; I don't know Meghan! I've shot my best rounds ever<br />
&gt; out there at the &quot;Big Bee&quot; :)  In fact, I shot a<br />
&gt; whole tournament down (it was the last time that's<br />
&gt; ever happen, though :)  Wish Shannon would have<br />
&gt; played, so you wouldn't have been soooo alone! <br />
&gt; Talk to ya soon!<br />
&gt; Leslie<br />
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Yeah, your right Leslie, it wasn't realy ALL THAT.  But it was my first time finishing a round down in a tourney.....(and I was -3 with only two holes left lol ;)  I also wish shannon....or anyone would have showed.  Maybe she will come to wal doxey, are you coming?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>*meghanf*</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:28:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I don't know Meghan! I've shot my best rounds ever out there at the &quot;Big Bee&quot; :)  In fact, I shot a whole tournament down (it was the last time that's ever happen, though :)  Wish Shannon would have played, so you wouldn't have been soooo alone!  Talk to ya soon!<br />
Leslie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:23:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Michael™ Wrote:<br />
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&gt; I think it should be a major discussion. The<br />
&gt; Tupelo Ice Bowl. ALL PRO DIVISIONS $35 to enter...<br />
&gt; First place pro women. paid 25. I know you were<br />
&gt; the only one there..the am pay out should have<br />
&gt; been docked from paying 21 places, so MORE could<br />
&gt; go to the lesser people per-divison...Good luck on<br />
&gt; this one. Pe@ce. Michael™<br />
<br />
<br />
Lets see if I got this straight...you want to take money from the divisions with the most players and give it to the divisions with the fewest.  Or to put it another way: From those according to their ability; to those according to their need.  Karl Marx would be proud.<br />
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Gary Wagoner]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gary Wagoner</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:02:15 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ *meghanf* Wrote:<br />
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&gt; (however, that 53 I shot from the long<br />
&gt; tees @ tombigbee would have been tough to beet<br />
&gt; ladies... (WINK :)<br />
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That is why you are a pro and I am a wanna be!!! :0  Good shooting Meghan!!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe the Pro &amp; Cat</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:01:39 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I agree, Leslie, I expected about $15 payout, since the tournament info. said that they would be donating 1/2 of all entry fees. In fact,  after they gave me the $25, I decided to donate an extra $5 for charity, because I thought it was a good payout.  Especially considering the tourney I played in where  I payed $27 (in a non-ice bowl) with 4 open women and only got $50 for 1st place, so it was like I hit the jackpot at tupelo..lol......I didn't even have to beat anyone.  (however, that 53 I shot from the long tees @ tombigbee would have been tough to beet ladies... (WINK :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>*meghanf*</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:34:42 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ice bowls are a totally different story though....it's about charity.  I think we all could agree that we go to these tournaments knowing the payout will be less, especially since the entry fee is less, and they take out for the charity. It's just how it is when there is only one or two playing in a division     ( I've played in toooo many lonely tournaments :)<br />
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Leslie E.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:13:55 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I think it should be a major discussion. The Tupelo Ice Bowl. ALL PRO DIVISIONS $35 to enter... First place pro women. paid 25. I know you were the only one there..the am pay out should have been docked from paying 21 places, so MORE could go to the lesser people per-divison...Good luck on this one. Pe@ce. Michael™]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Michael™</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:26:48 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Amen!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Suemac</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:37:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I love how Sue put it..... &quot;HAVE FUN no matter what division you play&quot;.  If your not having fun then you probably shouldn't be playing :)  OR, you might take it toooooo serious :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:59 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Aww Sue..I wish you were coming. We'll miss you..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Snap</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:44:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The best way to improve your game, play with better players.   <br />
<br />
I played with Dee yesterday, and she's heading to La vie Rose with Tiff and Tracy.  <br />
<br />
Wish I was going, but sending a box of pretty pink goodies for the ladies.<br />
<br />
Have fun no matter what division you play.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Suemac</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:09:07 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hope to see you this weekend..To answer your question about moving up... You can always play a fundraiser tournament in Pro Women, and see how well you place without being stuck in that division. Or you can play Pro women when ever you want, and if you Win, or cash, you can turn down the money, and accept prizes. Either way you won't be &quot;Stuck&quot; in Pro. I think you would compete very well with all of us &quot;pro&quot;;s around here. <br />
<br />
See ya soon...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Snap</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:15:23 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ yeah...forgot about that little detail...sorry!   (I was just hopeful...it would have been a solution to the whole &quot;should I move up yet&quot; question...)   Anyway, hope to see you again soon!  Possibly the Mobile Ice Bowl...but I'll definitely make the Hill...<br />
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-Lindsey]]></description>
            <dc:creator>LinzB</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:14:53 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ A &quot;Pro&quot; can't play Advanced...That is if that &quot;Pro&quot; has cashed in 6 months. Advanced is still considered &quot;AM&quot;..so no that wouldn't work. All the Pro ladies have to agree to pay the higher prices :(<br />
<br />
<br />
Nice thought though..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Snap</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:09:39 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ What about an advanced am division?  They could pay the price Pro women pay now.  That way, the Pros who want to pay more (and get more payout) can do so, and those that cringe at the higher price can still play above the am division.  Is that even possible?  Just a thought.<br />
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-Lindsey]]></description>
            <dc:creator>LinzB</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:35:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Snap</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:48:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Doesn't sound bad to me.  It's not like it's one of those at $100+]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Suemac</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:05:03 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ We are starting the planning on the 2009 Memphis Dogwood Classic and one of the subjects under consideration is the fee structure for the women players. Traditionally, the women's fees have been significantly less than those of the men, but voices have been heard that want parity which equates to a higher payout. The Pro Open Men will be $70 and the Pro Men Master and Men Grand Master will be $50. Here is the question: <br />
<br />
<b>Do the Pro Open Women and Pro Master Women want their entry fees to be $70 and $50 respectively?</b> <br />
<br />
Meghan Jordan and Michelle Cartwright have said, &quot;Yes&quot;. I would like to hear from Leslie Easterling, Rena Chapa, Lori Maxwell, Shannon Simmons, Stephanie Edwards, Stacie Morris, Tambra Klemensky, Becky Farris, Lisa Hearn and Tommy Darby since these are the ladies who competed in the Dogwood last year. <br />
<br />
I would like to keep this thread focused on the question at hand. If there are any other pro women players who plan to attend I would like to hear from you as well. <br />
<br />
Gary Wagoner, TD]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gary Wagoner</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:53:34 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well, Suemac, sometimes I disagree about the &quot;same tees&quot; sometimes, because the guys have the &quot;big arms&quot; to make it over water or over trees, or whatever.  Seriously, I think that if it a bigger tournament that is gonna draw more &quot;big names&quot; then yeah, up the entry fee but if it's a smaller tourney, keep the entry fee lower so those ladies who aren't sure if they can make the cut to be pro or pro master will consider moving up to give &quot;their arm&quot; a try.  Make sense?  Hope so.<br />
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Me]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe the Pro &amp; Cat</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:34:02 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ As a &quot;want-to-be&quot; pro, I can argue either side.   But, we always want to be just like the boys...............same tees, sweet smack and such.  LOL]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Suemac</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:29:37 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Look for it in Southaven sometime next year I will be putting it on the schedule after Christmas when my work schedule comes out]]></description>
            <dc:creator>head</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:06:13 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>head</strong><br/>Ladies come to my next tournament I always take care of the girls just ask Leslie</div></blockquote>
let me know when and where and I'll be there :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>*meghanf*</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:20:45 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I do agree more entry fee= more pay out. Which I'm all for, but I know from experience and other's comment, that sometimes the entry fee affects turnout! The larger tournments should have a larger entry fee, but the smaller ones should stay about the same. Just my 2 cents! <br />
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Leslie E.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>lesliez</dc:creator>
            <category>Women's Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:50:30 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: pro women's entry fees</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ladies come to my next tournament I always take care of the girls just ask Leslie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>head</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:28:06 -0600</pubDate>
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