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        <title>SNDC RECORDS!!!!!</title>
        <description>I am going to start this post and try to keep all records out in the open for all to see; any questions will be taken and answered as fast as possible.

The names on the account will be mine (mike sidebottom) , jim orum , mike preston.

We will open the account either the week of may 4th or the week of may 11th

first check received from john  k. in the amount of $880.25 for 6 paid s/n doubles tournament.

note: he sent me the break down but i will let him make that public</description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Jim, I live on the water and fishing is great, come to Texas anytime.... Matts stayed with me before.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Brad Wells</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I found the blue folder with all the info, I will be glad to give it to anyone that wants to veiw it. If someone wants to post it, I will be glad to let you borrow it.It belongs to Mike S. S so it needs to be returned to him. Iwill be at the HOWLER if anyone wants to look at it.Thanks Jim]]></description>
            <dc:creator>JIM ORUM</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ john thanks for posting the numbers; i don't post numbers because of the exact reason you just stated; i like to box it all up and give it to the proper folks (you) and let you do it; that in my mind is the best way to do it. i do keep records as you know because you and jim along with josh saw them; i could careess about riff raft.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mike sidebottom</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:23:04 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Sorry been to two out of town tournaments in a row and I have been trying to catch up.Thanks John for posting that.I will answer any thing anyone needs to know. I am still way behind my work and I have a few side problems to work out in the next couple weeks.The MADGA will host the SNDC this year. I will do everything I can to help them.I told MADGA of my mistake in giving away to much in the am player packages. When I run my own events I think I do a great job. When I try and help someone I just can not think right.. But I will always help my friends.John your right my fishing days are much closer than most realize.I will step back and not run anymore SNC . But I will always help the hosting clubs or TDS .Jim]]></description>
            <dc:creator>JIM ORUM</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:30:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The second check was for $72ish from the NO doubles tournament.  The SNDC only gets the money from the 8-10 doubles tournaments held throughtout the year and it's usually $800-$1000 each year.  If you go to that tournament expecting the moster payout like the snac and snpc you will be disappointed.  However looking back at the payout below:<br />
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Open<br />
16 teams x $100 entry fee per team = $1600.  Actual payout $2648 = 165.5% of entry fees.<br />
<br />
Pro women<br />
3 x $100 = $300 payout $518 = 172.6%<br />
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Pro Master<br />
5 teams x $100 = $500 payout $698 = 139.6%<br />
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Pro Grandmaster<br />
6 teams x $100 = $600 payout $818 = 136.3%<br />
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Advanced <br />
16 teams $70 = $1120 payout $1858 = 165.9%<br />
<br />
Adv master<br />
7 teams x $70 = $490 payout $840 = 171.4%<br />
<br />
Am men <br />
31 teams x $50 = $1550 payout $3387 = 218.5%<br />
<br />
Am women <br />
2 teams x $50 = $100 payout $300 = 300%<br />
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Junior<br />
1 team x $30 = $30 payout $130 = 433.3%<br />
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It looks like everyone was taken care of.  I know Mikey isn't dumb but chooses to not run the numbers.  If he did then he wouldn't have an argument regardless if all the accounting documents weren't posted or not.  I believe Jim Orum to be one of the most honest people I know.   It would be a sad day when he decided he's had enough and retires from all aspects of disc golf to go fishing.<br />
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The forum shenanigans are what beat me down and have in part caused me to pull back....<br />
<br />
JOhn k]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:03:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Here's an old video of Mike S <br />
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[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmIoBYzvYCI" rel="nofollow" >www.youtube.com</a>]<br />
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He's the one in the suit on the left]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The silence of Jim O and Mike S says a lot, Russ. <br />
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I'm certain Jim would send me another profane email wishing I would die soon, or post the financials here, if he could show that there wasn't any shenanigans.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I don't think so... I think that was just bad grammar. ;)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It was $800 on the nose.<br />
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Josh]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Hilltopper</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Gilligan Wrote:<br />
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&gt; &gt; first check received from john k. in the amount<br />
&gt; of $880.25 for 6 paid s/n doubles tournament.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Which is about what they had last year also.<br />
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<br />
&quot;first check,&quot; so I'm assuming there was a second check? Obviously, SNDC is not as big as the SNAC/SNPC as far as players' package and payout, unless the TD can secure some significant sponsorship $$$. <br />
<br />
rWc3523]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Russ3523</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:11:35 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Sidebottom</strong><br/>
first check received from john k. in the amount of $880.25 for 6 paid s/n doubles tournament.</div></blockquote>
<br />
Which is about what they had last year also.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ That's not much. I'm guessing a lot of the players' package cost came from entry fees, unlike the SNAC.<br />
<br />
rWc3523]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Russ3523</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I guess around 600 to 800]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well, I can sorta understand that, being mathematically eliminated and all.<br />
<br />
So how much SN money comes to the SNDC, on the average? I'm curious.<br />
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rWc3523]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Russ3523</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ .]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ We were mathematically eliminated after two rounds. And the payout wasn't worth sticking around for...JUST SAYIN :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Didn't finish? Why would you not finish? <br />
<br />
Fail!<br />
<br />
rWc3523]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Russ3523</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Mobile I think]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bigal5657</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Where is the SNDC next year?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ mikey you still mad about the fact that you and bob didn't finish; we will have a special award for ya'll next year.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mike sidebottom</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:03:11 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I've got to agree with the Ginger on this one, Jim O should send Mike S one of his profane PM's. Plenty of people had a few things to say about the lack of payout at the SNDC...<br />
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JUST SAYIN'...don't shoot the messenger]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ See Jim... what am I supposed to do with that.  Hell, I'm not even sure how you defend him sometimes.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ @#$%&!!!! gilly boy ya got me again; barney fife still lives; here see if you can understand this;&quot; FUT YOU BUTTWEET&quot; listen to folks gilly nobody cares what you have to say accept????????]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mike sidebottom</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Sidebottom</strong><br/>
I am going to start this post and try to keep all records out in the open for all to see...</div></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Sidebottom</strong><br/>
john if we could keep this up top i would apprec. </div></blockquote>
<br />
One would be led to think that this topic was going to be always updated as soon as Mike got info &quot;for all to see&quot;.  After that last post there was one more post about what was raised and then tumbleweeds.<br />
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I didn't think we would need to ask, I just assumed Mike would be true to his word and post all the records and details.  Mike was supposedly the TD for this I guess I just assumed he would be doing he promised.<br />
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Mike, glad to see you are still promoting good dialog with simple name calling... maybe Jim O needs to send YOU a PM.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ jim you ain't going no where; gilly is just a simple little cancer in the s/n family and it will go away; i promise.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mike sidebottom</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It is not mike s fault i waited a few days and no one said nothing , so i thought everything was ok, let me know what you need to know and i will see if i can find it. i wish people would speak up right away, it might be time for me to find a enjoyment in life, i have always enjoyed disc golf in the past, if it not on the tread. i did not hear of one player who attened ask anything.DONT BLAME MIKE S. I TOOK THE STUFF HOME SO BLAKE COULD POST IT.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>JIM ORUM</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Just a friendly reminder.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ got to admit Ginger, that song really does remind me of Mike.<br />
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&quot;Who calls the English teacher Daddy-O?&quot;]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bluff Magee</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ If you had a theme song Sidebottom, this would be it:<br />
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[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34QROzqsW6o" rel="nofollow" >www.youtube.com</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ gota love that pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
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