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        <title>Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
        <description> John Kittrell PM'd yesterday about a wrong name on the posted results concerning a tournament that was held 8 months ago.  I propose that the guidelines for all tournaments be amended to require a TD to keep the Leaderboard Cards and Score Cards on hand for 30 days after the results are submitted to the SNDG.  I further propose that all requests for corrections must be made within 30 days after the results are posted, otherwise they will be deemed correct and not subject to modification.

A TD can't be expected to keep the cards indefinitely and there ought to be a limit on how long a player can wait before asking that the results be changed.

Gary Wagoner</description>
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            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,142193#msg-142193</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I'd think a name change would be rather simple and you wouldn't need cards for that. *shrug*<br />
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As far as scores go... I think Gary is right.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:13:34 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,142181#msg-142181</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hilltopper Wrote:<br />
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&gt; Gary,<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I have no problem with the 30 day name correction<br />
&gt; request, but I don't know about requiring TD's to<br />
&gt; keep the cards for 30 days after they post. I just<br />
&gt; want to keep things as easy for the TD's as<br />
&gt; possible.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Josh<br />
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Josh,<br />
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The suggested change would be contained within the tournament &quot;guidelines&quot;.  I guess I'm not making myself clear...the object of my suggestion is not to burden the TD with more requirements, but to let him off the hook.  Lets say Joe Blow complains that his score was recorded wrong for 42nd place in the Am division.  How do you confirm that without going back to the scoredards?  The whole point is to limit the correction time to 30 days; after that the results stand as posted regardless of how bad the alleged error might be.<br />
<br />
When I do a tournament I dump the leaderboard cards and scorecards in a grocery sack and keep them in a closet for a few months.  This thread was initiated because a player wanted his name changed 7 months after the results were posted.  At what point do you say, &quot;You waited too late.&quot;  I'm just looking for some finality here.  I was hoping to come up with a reasonable standard of practice throughout the SNDG.  <br />
<br />
Perhaps you are right, Josh, expecting TD's to hang on to the cards for 30 days is asking too much.  It really doesn't matter to me because the next tournament I run I will state up front that I'll only keep the cards for a month and will not, as TD, certify any changes past that time.  <br />
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Gary]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gary Wagoner</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:25:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141981#msg-141981</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Word!  (oops, there I go being negative again)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gilligan</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:41:19 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141976#msg-141976</guid>
            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141976#msg-141976</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ no point in making a rule if no one will do anything to enforce it or penalize those that break it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cajundop</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:19:04 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141966#msg-141966</guid>
            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141966#msg-141966</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ agree josh]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mike sidebottom</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:45:49 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141959#msg-141959</guid>
            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141959#msg-141959</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Gary,<br />
<br />
I have no problem with the 30 day name correction request, but I don't know about requiring TD's to keep the cards for 30 days after they post. I just want to keep things as easy for the TD's as possible.<br />
<br />
Josh]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Hilltopper</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:51:46 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141926#msg-141926</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Sounds good to me Gary I will Support this!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>head</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:00:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Tournament Guidelines Change Proposal</title>
            <link>http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,141925,141925#msg-141925</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ John Kittrell PM'd yesterday about a wrong name on the posted results concerning a tournament that was held 8 months ago.  I propose that the guidelines for all tournaments be amended to require a TD to keep the Leaderboard Cards and Score Cards on hand for 30 days after the results are submitted to the SNDG.  I further propose that all requests for corrections must be made within 30 days after the results are posted, otherwise they will be deemed correct and not subject to modification.<br />
<br />
A TD can't be expected to keep the cards indefinitely and there ought to be a limit on how long a player can wait before asking that the results be changed.<br />
<br />
Gary Wagoner]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Gary Wagoner</dc:creator>
            <category>SN Board of Directors</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:58:48 -0500</pubDate>
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