Members Present: Keith Bodin, Will Corey, Josh Lenox, Don Tommasko. Absent: Marc Darby. Also present Allan Morrow(secretary) Meeting began 7:58pm 1. Voted 4-0 to accept the resignation of Matthew Gardner, due to personal reasons. 2. Voted 4-0 to put Allan Morrow on the board in his spot for the remainder of Matthew's term. 3. Keith's proposal for bylaws was tabled. 4. Marc's proposal for new meeting format was tabled. 5. Voted 4-2 to tie the bag tags into a charity in 2010-2011 season. (Keith, Marc(called on phone by Josh), Don, and Allan all voting yes. Will and Josh voting no. 6. Voted 5-0 to buy 100 more bag tags. 7. Voted 3-3 on whether the board needed to meet in person at least once a year. Josh, Will, and Don voting no. Keith, Marc(called by Josh), and Allan voting yes. Jim O will be contacted via email by Josh. 8. Tabled the idea of setting a deadline for TD's to have the SN fees in to the Treasurer. 9. Voted 5-0 on deadline of TD's having results posted in two weeks of such said tournament. After two weeks they would be contacted by a BoD member to get results posted. Also brought up to get Brian Moon to set up a email account for TD's to send results to(I.E. results@sndg.org) 10. Keith's proposal for SNAC was tabled. 11. Approved 5-0 the rough draft forum guidelines, put forth by Josh, to be submitted to the players for comments before final implementation. 12. Meeting adjourned. 9:24pm Jim voted no to requiring bod members to meet once per year outside of the championships. SN BOD http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150195#msg-150195 Tue, 21 May 2013 03:52:11 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150779#msg-150779 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150779#msg-150779
But I digress...

The BOD's plan hinges on bag tag sales increasing. If bag tag sales increase THIS year, it doesn't necessarily mean they will increase NEXT year when this plan goes into effect. If 400 tags are sold this year, there's $8k for the SNPC. If only 400 tags are sold in 2010-11, the SNPC will receive $6,000. Could the goodwill of the $2k donation help land additional sponsors that make up for that $2k? Maybe, maybe not. They're hoping it will, but it will be up to the host city club to seek out those corporate sponsors, which I assume they would do anyway.

The BOD members who voted on it are trying something to raise more money for the SNPC. I guess it's a case of doing something rather than doing nothing. If it doesn't work out, they can always scratch the idea with another vote. The PDGA has done similar things. Remember the Clif Bar deal and the marketing firm they hired? A lot more money was lost there. Of course, there was no reason to act so soon since this plan is a year or so away.

rWc3523]]> Russ3523 SN Board of Directors Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:48:25 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150771#msg-150771 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150771#msg-150771 ideals!!


Ideas*]]> hobbit489 SN Board of Directors Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:20:03 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150759#msg-150759 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150759#msg-150759 -------------------------------------------------------
> ONE STEP AT A TIME BOBBY!!! paaaaaaleeese!!!!

my point exactly! They are off to allocating moneu during some of thems first meeting on the BOD!! Slow down and make changes where they are needed and not change what is/was working. I am just giving them options instead of taking the easy way out and raping the bag tags!]]> Tax Man SN Board of Directors Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:15:16 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150749#msg-150749 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150749#msg-150749 mike sidebottom SN Board of Directors Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:22:49 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150748#msg-150748 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150748#msg-150748
I still hope you guys have re thought the bag tag tie in with charity??? If not you guys are messing with a good thing and being lazy by not creating something new! I repeat, there is no need to tie a charity in with the championships. Pick a date where everyone in the series runs an event the same weekend for charity, try the wholesale retail avenue.....................

Just do not come in to the first meeting and vote to change something with out tabling other ideals!!]]> Tax Man SN Board of Directors Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:59:29 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150706#msg-150706 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150706#msg-150706 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:15:00 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150698#msg-150698 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150698#msg-150698
rWc3523]]> Russ3523 SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:22:33 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150696#msg-150696 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150696#msg-150696 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:55:59 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150693#msg-150693 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150693#msg-150693

Why would TD's follow a guideline when a precedent has been set by previous board members that you can just ignore the guidelines.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:50:58 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150690#msg-150690 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150690#msg-150690 That's my opinion, not the views of any other board member. There is NO reason for results not to be posted in a timely manner. If the tournament is over Sunday, then by Wednesday the results should be in.....period....TO ME.]]> bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:25:26 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150687#msg-150687 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150687#msg-150687
rWc3523]]> Russ3523 SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:09:01 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150682#msg-150682 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150682#msg-150682 mike sidebottom SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:34:33 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150680#msg-150680 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150680#msg-150680 Dillon_Gourley SN Board of Directors Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:29:10 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150623#msg-150623 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150623#msg-150623 MassiveJ SN Board of Directors Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:52:28 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150616#msg-150616 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150616#msg-150616 -------------------------------------------------------
> I was thinking about this just now and thought of
> a potential compromise solution. it seems that
> there is a fair amount of opposition to taking $5
> dollars from the SNPC and giving it to a charity
> based on the original intent of the bag tags and
> it taking away from the championship. There is
> also support for giving to the charity for several
> reasons. Any chance that the board would consider
> simply raising the price of the tags $5 to pay for
> the donation to the charity?

Curt, no offense but,

any chance the BOD can come up with an original plan? Wholesale retail would leave more then enough to give to a charity and a host!]]> Tax Man SN Board of Directors Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:15:37 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150591#msg-150591 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150591#msg-150591 curt SN Board of Directors Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:07:16 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150344#msg-150344 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150344#msg-150344 -------------------------------------------------------
> You looking for a gig Dillon?

No. Just thought it was funny how they made up a position just for Hogman to sit in on the meeting, although he did say he was the SN secretary still.]]> Dillon_Gourley SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:12:57 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150337#msg-150337 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150337#msg-150337
"i agree this is what needs to happen if we want to move forward.we must set up a great plan and follow thru.here somethings that needs to happen.
#1 PLAYERS MUST UNDERSTAND WE NEED EVERYONE TO BUY A TAG.WE SHOULD SELL 500 EACH YEAR.
#2 WE MUST HAVE SUPPORT FROM ALL HOST SNQ CITIES TO BUY TAGS AND GIVE THEM OUT AS PRIZES AT THERE EVENT.
#4 AT BOTH AM AND PRO SNC HAVE THEM READY AND SELL THEM ALL WEEKEND.
# 5SNAC GIVE THEM OUT AS A PRIZES TO ALL THAT CASH, JUST AS THEY DID THIS YEAR.
#6 KEEP UP WITH THE TAGS YEAR ROUND ON THE SITE.
#7 INNOVA WILL GIVE AWAY A CUSTOM BASKET AT THE SNPC, SO EACH BAG TAG MEMBER WILL GET A CHANCE TO WIN A BASKET , MAYBE INNOVA MIGHT GIVE TWO BASKET IF WE SUPPORT THIS AND SELL 500 TAGS AND DONATE $2500 TO CHARITY.
#8 CONTACT ALL SNQ TD TO SEE IF THEY WILL SUPPORT AND BUY SOME TAGS.
#9 POST ALL MEMBERS ON THE SITE.
Get involve with this great ideal, now go ace one for me, and buy a 2010 membership bag tag challenges. Jim!! "]]> Anonymous User SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:51:13 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150336#msg-150336 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150336#msg-150336 Bag-Tag Sales and Southern National Publicity
(Revised)




This idea is something that I have been thinking about since the thread on charity events and creating a positive public view of disc golf and the Southern Nationals Disc Golf community in particular.

I will try to relay this idea in a professional and respectful manner, that being said; here we go.

I have removed the membership part of this proposal because the community does not want membership fees. I still believe that all Pros should have a bag- tag to play in the SNPC because the money is going to the SNPC. All Pros that play in the SNPC should support their event.

How can we ask an “am” player to purchase a bag-tag to help the SNPC and not have the Pros that plays in the SNPC to have one?

1. We charge $20.00 for the bag-tag.

2. Here is how the money would break down:
a. $15.00 goes to the SNPC pay out; and
b. Here is the kicker; the other $5.00 goes to the host city’s charity choice.

Example:
Memphis is hosting the SN championships in 2010. Let’s say Memphis decides that they want St. Jude’s as their charity. We sell 500 bag-tags that give Memphis $2,500.00 to give to St. Jude’s. This allows us to open doors that have never been opened to us before.

Think of how good the SN will look when we crown our pro champion and then that champion turns around and gives St. Jude’s a $2,500.00 check. Also, think of how many corporate sponsors we could get by saying “Mr. CEO, if you give $2,000.00 for our championship then we will give St. Jude’s $1,000.00 of your money.”

I realize that it is too late for the next part of this idea, but next year we could make the bag-tags with the host city’s charity choice on them. (i.e. 2010 St. Jude’s SN bag-tag)

We could grow the SN bigger and better while showing that we are a part of every community in our region.


This would provide positive publicity for the SN in the host city every year while also relieving some of the burden of the cost for the event. It would make it easier for other cities around the SN to host fundraisers for the event. They could go to companies in their respective cities and say “Mr. CEO, we are hosting a tournament to help raise money for St. Jude’s and any money that you give to us, half will go to St. Jude’s.”

What does a player get for purchasing a bag-tag?

1. Every player that purchases a bag-tag gets the satisfaction of knowing that they are helping a good cause; and

2. Every player with a bag-tag will be allowed to vote for the BoD.(not part of what was voted on)

Jim O and I are going to work the bag-tag idea. We would like to get at least one more person to help out, if possible.


One last thing, Jim O spoke with Innova Disc and they told him that if we did implement this proposal that they would make a custom basket for a raffle for all bag-tag holders. Meaning, if I won the raffle, I could have them make me a LSU basket or anything that the winner wanted.




Sincerely
Keith C. Bodin
Southern Nationals Board of Directors Member]]> Anonymous User SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:43:35 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150333#msg-150333 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150333#msg-150333
The amount I heard was $5 from each $20 tag sale, but I don't believe the final plan has been disclosed. Certainly the amount can be negotiable. From what I know, it appears that the success of this plan depends on bag tag sales continuing to do well and the landing of a corporate sponsor that's apparently being worked on.

Now that a vote has been taken, I think the board owes it to the players to explain the plan in a thread on the main page where there is more traffic.

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> How will the charity recipient be determined? they are leaving it up to the host city if I read correctly!]]> Tax Man SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:58:53 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150326#msg-150326 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150326#msg-150326 Two_Finger_Slinger SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:44:56 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150319#msg-150319 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150319#msg-150319 -------------------------------------------------------
> You looking for a gig Dillon?

If that person has a vote THEN I WANT IN! You all are going way to fast and Keith I want to see those posts.

If you all are about charity may I suggest donating your own time and money to a cuase. I do, run a surf camp for disabled kids and adults.

Worry about things that could use tweaking. Like the purchasing of merchadise {baskets,discs, shirts...} for the host of the snac. You could lock in a great rate. MAYBE even get that corporate sponsor. We started this when i was on the BOD . I urge you all to find other means but do not take one that is already designated to the championships.

I hope you all where just considering it and this was not voted in! If so you have done a big injustice to the series or at least that is my take!

Thanks for the minutes!
Bob]]> Tax Man SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:02:24 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150250#msg-150250 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150250#msg-150250 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:29:35 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150241#msg-150241 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150241#msg-150241
Going to bite the tongue on the rest of it...especially #5.]]> Dillon_Gourley SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:59:23 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150218#msg-150218 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150218#msg-150218 charity only, not the membership part of the proposal.]]> Anonymous User SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:09:29 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150217#msg-150217 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150217#msg-150217
rWc3523]]> Russ3523 SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:07:47 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150214#msg-150214 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150214#msg-150214 Anonymous User SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:03:53 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150213#msg-150213 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150213#msg-150213
Also in years past we have only bought 200 tags. 200 tags x $20 = 4000
We have already gone through the initial 200 and have had to order 100 more. If we hit our goal this year of 500 we will still be putting more towards the SNPC than we ever have.
500 tags x $20= $10,000 with $5 from each tag going to charity. So 10k-2500 = $7500. This compared to the 4k originally is still better and we are helping out someone in the process.

But the $5 will not start until next season. So if we sell 500 tags this year then 10k will go to the SNPC. 6k more than usual.]]> bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:00:12 -0500 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150212#msg-150212 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,150195,150212#msg-150212
I have a question about this item.

After the SNAC and SNPC there was a lot of concern about the amount of money going into the pro championship. Now the BOD is proposing giving a portion of the PRO money generated by bag tag sales to charity. Obviously, this means LESS money to the SNPC.

How does the BOD propose to make up this loss of revenue and what positive tangible effect does the BOD expect to receive from this gesture?

rWc3523]]> Russ3523 SN Board of Directors Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:41:54 -0500