Sorry I have not put these up sooner. I have had computer issues and did not want to post this on my cell phone. Merry Christmas to the SN. Members present: Mark Darby, Josh Lenox, Allan Morrow, Kevin Richard, and Don Tomasko. Meeting began at 8:05pm. Will Corey entered the meeting at 9:01 pm 1. Voted 3-0 to ban Victor LeBlanc (sacalaitwhisperer) from the forum, again! (Kevin and Don abstained) 2. Voted 4-1 (Josh voting no) to amend the 6 month rule. As it sits now, the rule says that if you cash (win something in a tourney) in a division that you cannot play in any other division lower than that division you have cashed in for 6 months from the last time you cashed in said division. We changed that rule to a 4 consecutive tournament minimum in that cashed division instead of 6 months. This unless there are special circumstances such as injury. If this occurs, each individual case will be voted on by the BOD. 3. Also stated that next meeting will not take place until Jan. 6th as to let people break for holidays. Meeting adjourned at 9:13pm http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156147#msg-156147 Wed, 22 May 2013 16:10:09 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,160641#msg-160641 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,160641#msg-160641
leo otto]]> mobz SN Board of Directors Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:26:51 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,158018#msg-158018 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,158018#msg-158018 Bluff Magee SN Board of Directors Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:17:39 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,157765#msg-157765 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,157765#msg-157765 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:02:31 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,157738#msg-157738 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,157738#msg-157738
Is the SN so fragile, so close to extinction, that one uber dooshbag's commentary can harm it? I think not.

Sad to see the SN run by people with no respect for the SN tradition of freedom of speech, and by people with no respect for the rules of fair elections.]]> Bluff Magee SN Board of Directors Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:18:30 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156263#msg-156263 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156263#msg-156263 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:45:59 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156260#msg-156260 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156260#msg-156260 hobbit489 SN Board of Directors Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:43:16 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156259#msg-156259 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156259#msg-156259 Dillon_Gourley SN Board of Directors Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:42:18 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156246#msg-156246 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156246#msg-156246 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:06:41 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156244#msg-156244 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156244#msg-156244
JABBA]]> frzbman SN Board of Directors Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:53:12 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156236#msg-156236 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156236#msg-156236
How about we make this not confusing at all and have CLEAR CUT RATINGS?]]> Dillon_Gourley SN Board of Directors Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:52:29 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156225#msg-156225 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156225#msg-156225 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:28:37 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156223#msg-156223 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156223#msg-156223
oh btw,, gil, I still have two names on the stat page

Terrence Zeringue from the LA States, needs to be under Terry Zeringue with the rest of trnys I played in. Thank you.]]> TheZinger SN Board of Directors Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:04:17 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156184#msg-156184 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156184#msg-156184 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:07:18 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156178#msg-156178 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156178#msg-156178 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:48:57 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156177#msg-156177 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156177#msg-156177 Pin Seeker SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:41:53 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156173#msg-156173 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156173#msg-156173 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:41:35 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156169#msg-156169 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156169#msg-156169 Pin Seeker SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:08:06 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156168#msg-156168 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156168#msg-156168 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:53:32 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156166#msg-156166 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156166#msg-156166 Pin Seeker SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:35:58 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156164#msg-156164 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156164#msg-156164
That would get more complicated because sometimes there might not be any pro-masters so they would have to play Open.

I think the pro/adv master division is one of the biggest challenge with this situation, it's not that large and they are all very competitive.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:48:54 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156163#msg-156163 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156163#msg-156163 hobbit489 SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:11:47 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156159#msg-156159 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156159#msg-156159 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:53:13 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156158#msg-156158 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156158#msg-156158
I read both rules to allow a slide from Pro to Am, after 6 months / now 4 consecutive events, of no cash.

If pros are lateral then I imagine the other skill levels are too, so the hierarchy is:

1. All Pros
2. All Advanced (including the one and only Am Masters)
3. All intermediate

Simple enough, but that would mean a pro master casher can slide back to am master or advanced.

One could cash in pro master, then no cash 4 times in open, then slide back to am master.

Sounds pretty crazy to me, but if pro divisions are lateral then isn’t that the result?]]> Discjazz SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:50:49 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156157#msg-156157 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156157#msg-156157 TheZinger SN Board of Directors Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:17:51 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156155#msg-156155 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156155#msg-156155
In most cases it is obvious what a lower division is for the purposes of the rule. Others are not so obvious, like pro women playing advanced.

If you go by best scores, GM is prolly a lower division than Advanced.

Often the best advanced score is close to the best Master score and the best GM score close to the best advanced master score.

Are there any two divisions that are the same level?

Listing the divisions in high-low order would resolve these issues, however unimportant they may be.

I did not mean to be a pain. Thank you for serving and reporting.]]> Discjazz SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:45:08 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156154#msg-156154 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156154#msg-156154 bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:04:37 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156152#msg-156152 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156152#msg-156152
An Pro Woman would have to move over and play Open if she didn't want to play by herself.

If I understand your question I would say there is:

Open (with age protected variations IE Pro Master... all being equal as Adam has stated)
Advanced (with age protected variations as stated above)
Intermediate (this is the bottom)

So if you move up to Advanced and cash then, yes you would need to then fail to cash at the next 4 tournaments before you can move down. This should keep people from being able to play Open and cash then just sit out 6 months prior to SNACs and then be able to play Adv. If you move up and cash we would just like you to give it an honest try vs sitting it out. Four tournaments shouldn't be more than 6 months for most players.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:13:42 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156151#msg-156151 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156151#msg-156151 hobbit489 SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:58:17 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156150#msg-156150 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156150#msg-156150 believe the last board made a ruling on. I could be wrong. As for the "hierarchy" of divisions.... I do not understand the question being asked there. I will try to explain our position the best I can on what you are asking Mr Kevin.]]> bigal5657 SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:44:00 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156149#msg-156149 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,156147,156149#msg-156149
What is the hierarchy of divisions?

1 Open
2 Master
3 GM
4 Advanced
5 Advanced Master
6 Intermediate
7 Rec
8 Jr.

Where do the gender restricted divisions fit in? Can a pro woman play intermediate or advanced (with the guys) when there are no other pro women?]]> Discjazz SN Board of Directors Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:22:36 -0600