Here is the link to the SN Handbook on Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lL1vQ_RRqBgcKK_MNYbtqbAt42GFvRwVoheGc2Al_fo As of this posting, the sections have been linked to the table of contents. I'm going to begin weeding through all of the board minutes to find changes that need to be made. Consider this thread to be my record of changes that I've personally made. The record of changes is also kept on Google Docs itself, showing who edited what and when. http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185181#msg-185181 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:43:39 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,190906#msg-190906 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,190906#msg-190906 [www.sndg.org]

"4. Established the following standards for charity event waivers:
A. The event must be for a specific purpose/charity.
B. It must be a one time event.
C. The SN must be listed as an event sponsor equal to the amount of the waived fees.
D. The event/TD must apply at least one month in advance of the event to the BOD for the waiver"

*********Added as 6.3*********]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:42:07 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,186008#msg-186008 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,186008#msg-186008
As far as the punishments go, as laid back and non-confrontational as I've seen many TDs act, I doubt we'll even see that issue come up.]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:01:52 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185972#msg-185972 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185972#msg-185972 Any warnings or DQ's according to the guidelines above reported to the board will be counted against that player. A single disqualification or two warnings with a 12 month period will carry a 12 month probation period effective on the date of the disqualification or 2nd warning. During that probation period another warning or disqualification will carry a 3 month suspension from ANY SN disc golf event AND that player will not be allowed to play in any SN championship event for the SN year that the second infraction occurred. The probation period will also be restarted from the date of the second infraction for another year. Another infraction of these rules during the new probationary period will result in a minimum 1 year suspension from SN tournament play, permanent probation, and the player must request reinstatement after that year from the board before participating in another SN qualifier or championship. A third infraction will be dealt with specifically by the board but a permanent ban from SN events will be seriously considered.

I think one of the keys is it has to be reported. First it has to be reported to the TD, then it needs to be reported to the BOD. We are in the process of discussing the handbook and updating it at meetings, so this will be up for discussion. But, if someone cheats on your card tell the TD, if they don't follow through then let one of the BOD know. If we aren't aware then we don't know. If we could utilize the process it would work. Thanks for the input!
Leslie]]> lesliez SN Board of Directors Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:50:28 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185958#msg-185958 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185958#msg-185958
Karen]]> Karen J. SN Board of Directors Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:14:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185862#msg-185862 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185862#msg-185862
Karen....I totally agree, but want you to realize it is not just a SN thing, but also PDGA. The person I believe you are refering to plays majority PDGA, and I'm sure cheating occurs there...with NO CONSEQUENCES either. We can't call it a SN problem that has to be solved using our handbook, but it is on a tournament by tournament or TD by TD basis. When you enter a tournament and that person is playing you could let the TD know as well as the other players. That way everyone is keeping an eye on that player, and then you would follow normal disqualifications procedures which are in the PDGA handbook if the player does cheat at that tournament.

I hope this helps ladies!]]> lesliez SN Board of Directors Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:38:13 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185845#msg-185845 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185845#msg-185845 Karen J. SN Board of Directors Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:23:21 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185786#msg-185786 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185786#msg-185786 Snap SN Board of Directors Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:10:28 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185475#msg-185475 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185475#msg-185475 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:10:26 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185469#msg-185469 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185469#msg-185469

Thank you New Board Members.. Your doing a Fantastic job!!]]> Snap SN Board of Directors Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:02:36 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185461#msg-185461 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185461#msg-185461
The "warning" is only for offenses that could get you DQ'd.... it is just up to the TD on whether he wants to warn you vs DQ'ing you. It takes more warnings than DQ's so it still comes down to, if you are breaking those rules and you get warned and then you manage to do it and get warned at another event... then it's time to slow your roll and get a grip on your ability to follow some basic rules.

That person should be thankful that they only got warned and not DQ'd... warnings being doubly lenient over DQ'ing because of this rule.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:28:14 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185437#msg-185437 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185437#msg-185437 dictionary.reference.com] It's about the 2 different things that can get a person banned from the Championships. "Warnings" are ill-defined and allow far too much subjective enforcement to provide a reasonable and fair basis for such a severe penalty.]]> Rob Williams SN Board of Directors Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:52:20 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185436#msg-185436 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185436#msg-185436

In some parks, all of (BRECs) the usage of any knid of tobacco product is against park rules, example: cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and whatever else

Parks are ''Smoke Free''

So I guess my question is, if a T.D. sees a player smoking a cigar in the woods during play, and does not really care, (as well as the other players on his card), but someone else sees the T.D., not reprimanding the 1st. player, are we then going to be trying to punish the T.D.?

just a question, because I feel this could get ugly


Dex]]> Dex SN Board of Directors Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:35:31 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185416#msg-185416 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185416#msg-185416
It's Semantics... I think 2 warnings is potentially worse than 1 dq. If you can't get the hint after 2 warnings then you have worse problems than a single dq.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:33:06 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185395#msg-185395 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185395#msg-185395 hobbit489 SN Board of Directors Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:04:48 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185390#msg-185390 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185390#msg-185390 Rob Williams SN Board of Directors Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:25:05 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185386#msg-185386 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185386#msg-185386
If your temper is SO bad that you get DQ'd by a td TWICE! then maybe it should be a larger penalty.

Other than score mistakes, I have NEVER been even STROKED much less in danger of being DQ'd from ANY event.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:27:00 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185381#msg-185381 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185381#msg-185381 Rob Williams SN Board of Directors Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:35:40 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185359#msg-185359 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185359#msg-185359
How hard is it really? If you can't keep from having a melt down and doing something that will get you DQ'd then get therapy!]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:54:29 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185352#msg-185352 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185352#msg-185352
During that probation period another warning or disqualification will carry a 3 month suspension from ANY SN disc golf event AND that player will not be allowed to play in any SN championship event for the SN year that the second infraction occurred.

That makes it doubly punitive. Why have both? with the inclusion of AND you are now dishing a double dose. This AND that.
So player A gets dq in july and then warned in say September..... you are then DQ ing someone from the SNC's in June the next calendar year AND more than 6 months off.

Yeah I'd say that's doubly punitive.

JABBA]]> frzbman SN Board of Directors Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:11:57 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185340#msg-185340 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185340#msg-185340 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:52:00 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185325#msg-185325 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185325#msg-185325
PDGA Disciplinary Action Appeals Process]]> Warlord SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:06:31 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185307#msg-185307 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185307#msg-185307
If you can't contain yourself and you get DQ'd twice or warned 3 times or some variation of that. Should there not be harsher penalties?

You get at least one for "free", if you did something that warrants a dq under that guideline then it's time to slow down and make sure you don't do that again.]]> Gilligan SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:00:32 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185296#msg-185296 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185296#msg-185296 jtolbert SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:22:12 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185288#msg-185288 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185288#msg-185288
B. Disqualified players shall forfeit any prize money and shall not receive a refund of entry fees.

C. Any warnings or DQ's according to the guidelines above reported to the board will be counted against that player. A single disqualification or two warnings with a 12 month period will carry a 12 month probation period effective on the date of the disqualification or 2nd warning. During that probation period another warning or disqualification will carry a 3 month suspension from ANY SN disc golf event AND that player will not be allowed to play in any SN championship event for the SN year that the second infraction occurred. The probation period will also be restarted from the date of the second infraction for another year. Another infraction of these rules during the new probationary period will result in a minimum 1 year suspension from SN tournament play, permanent probation, and the player must request reinstatement after that year from the board before participating in another SN qualifier or championship. A third infraction will be dealt with specifically by the board but a permanent ban from SN events will be seriously considered.

Seems unnecessarily doubly punitive to me.]]> frzbman SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:52:54 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185274#msg-185274 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185274#msg-185274
Clarified the wording at the top of the document stating that we use the PDGA Official Rules of Disc Golf instead of Rules of Play. We actually use more than just the Rules of Play. We may have to go in further and specify certain sections of the official rules. Thanks Terry!]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:07:03 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185269#msg-185269 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185269#msg-185269
Added some spacing to help separate sections from each other to make it easier to read and follow.]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:39:12 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185267#msg-185267 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185267#msg-185267
Attempted to streamline the handbook and remove some redundant numbering. (Thanks, Gary!)]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:37:41 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185266#msg-185266 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185266#msg-185266
Leslie]]> lesliez SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:33:09 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185261#msg-185261 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185261#msg-185261 www.sndg.org] .
May 4, 2005: "2. A vote on procedure for replacing resigning SN board members during their term was taken. It was decided a couple meeting ago in principal that the person would be replaced by the person with the largest percent of votes from the last election that didn’t become a board member. If that person elects to not take that position then the seat would be vacant until the next SN Board election. Voting was unanimous in favor."]]> jtolbert SN Board of Directors Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:24 -0600 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185244#msg-185244 http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?4,185181,185244#msg-185244 Gilligan SN Board of Directors Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:37:18 -0600