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The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic

Posted by Kevin Lewis 
The Judges
Are proud to present
The 2002
Cossar Christmas Classic
Disc Golf Challenge

This tournament is a Southern National Qualifier
George Payne Cossar State Park
Oakland, MS
Saturday December 28, 2002

Sign ups: 8:00 - 9:30
Players meeting: 9:45
Tournament starts 10 am
2 Rounds of 18 holes
All players welcome

Open Pro & Masters $37
Advanced $27
Amateur $22
Novice & Junior $17

Contact Doug: 601-260-7697 or Kevin 601-506-1230

frzbman3041@aol.com or klewis3903@aol.com

Sorry to all those I told we would not be doing a Cossar tourney in December (especially Danny Daniels - if anybody knows how to reach him please do). Jim asked DW if he would do it and of course DW could not say no to a personal request from THE MAN. So they agreed to move it to after Christmas, 12/28. I am running around the web spreading the word however I can. E-mail me if you want a flyer (specify your favorite format - doc, htm)

It should also be posted on our web site soon.
jacksondiscgolf.com
John Kittrell
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 07, 2002 07:11AM
Kevin
I'll post the tournament on the upcoming SN tournaments page today.
John K
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 07, 2002 10:11AM
Sweet! I am sure Danny reads the boards but I will make sure he knows about it as well as all of the Memphis players. Expect a big turn out from Memphis if the weather is nice. ( Hence...not raining and 33. ;D )

Brad
how far north of jackson is oakland?
jim
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 07, 2002 12:00PM
11/2 to 2 hours this is one fine course , many great shots, resturant right near hole 18 and the park is a great host , call and see if the bunk house is open . they rent cabins also ,jim
Kevin I would like a copy of that flyer in doc. format to post in hattiesburg.

Friends and Fairways
Dale
Just e-mailed it to you Dale - in MSWord.doc format. Hope it worked...;-)

btw...you can "select all" then paste it in MSWord just in case what I did doesn't work.

Joe T
I just emailed the .doc to Dale. I'll be glad to do so for anyone. Thanks for asking.
Kevin, please email a doc file flyer to tdwriter@comcast.net. Don't know if I'll be able to make it, but I might consider it. Thanks, Russ Corey
BTW, how far is Cossar from say, Iuka, Miss? It's hard for me to tell how long it would take to get there from NW AL. thanks, Russ C>
Russ,
Thanks for the interest. We would love for you and anyone else to make it to the Cossar xmas tourney. From Iuka it looks like the easiest way to get there would be to go thru Oxford then to Batesville on I 55. From there go south on 55 15 miles to the Oakland exit. Go left and follow the signs.
This is 1 of the most scenic courses I have played. Nice water shots and varied terrain. Hope you choose to make it. See ya"ll then.
frzbman
Just received a little info for folks coming to the Cossar Christmas Classic. Josh Patterson, Assistant Park Manager sent me the hole distances so I can now tell you it is 4,588 feet for an average hole distance of 255. Tournament score cards will show all the distances. He has also taken the initiative to contact the local newspaper and TV station about the event.

Josh says “I sent the info for the tournament to WTVA in Tupelo (Channel 9). I asked them if they might try and send someone to the park and take some shots for the nightly news. The sportscaster mailed me back and said they would definitely give us some plugs during the sports segment and they would try and send someone to the park to film and maybe talk to some of the players. This could really do a lot for the sport in this area of the state.”

Josh also advised “the Restaurant will be closed that day. The only time of the year they close is for 2 weeks at Christmas. As far as places to eat, just as you turn off of HWY 32 onto the park road there is a community store that serves short order food and also about 1/2 mile east of there is another store. If anyone expresses need for overnight lodging for Friday and/or Saturday night, we will have cabins and the bunk houses available. Cabins, there is a 2 night min. on reservations. Everything will have to be run from one of the picnic pavilions. The Visitor Center is rented for that day. I don't know if you have been here before, but this pavilion is located just off of holes 17 and 18.”

Let’s put on a good show and thank Josh for his effort.
Cossar Christmas Classic weather forecast looks good.

Saturday 12/28
Mostly sunny
High 56F, Low 37F, Max. UV 3.
[wwwa.accuweather.com]

Entry Fees
Pro Open & Master $37.00
Pro Women & Grandmaster $32.00
Advanced & AM Master $27.00
Amateur & AM Women $22.00
Novice & Junior $17.00

Five people can take home a unique and pretty cool Christmas tree design plaque/trophy for first place Advanced, AM Master, Amateur, AM Women & Novice divisions. JPG available by e-mail upon request.
Please give directions from p-cola to cossar there are some folks here at the blue angel course interested in attending your tournament including myself. Sounds like a pretty short course which is my kind of old fart course.
Hey Mike, Do you play Master or Advanced Master? The last event I want to , the PDGA tourney in B'Ham, I was the only advanced master and had to play with the young guys! I want to come but don't want to "donate" any more money than I have to ;^). If I get my car fixed and can get up early enough ( and have money left over, I hope to make it) RwC
Mike, from Pensacola take 98 west to Hattiesburg, 49 N to Jackson, then 55 N. Take a right on Hwy 32 which is about 10 - 15 minutes north of Grenada. Go about 2 or 3 miles on 32 and take a left where the park sign tells you to. Stay on this road straight into the park and keep going till you run out of road, park and play. It is going to be about 3 1/2 hours from Hattiesburg or 2 hours north of Jackson.

You can now see one of the trophys at our web site.

jacksondiscgolf.com

Hole distances, according to the Park, are:

1. 183 10. 252
2. 256 11. 231
3. 234 12. 264
4. 258 13. 345
5. 192 14. 252
6. 201 15. 327
7. 246 16. 255
8. 234 17. 240
9. 297 18. 321

Total 4588, average 255

IMO some play a little longer than that.
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 26, 2002 08:20PM
Thanks for putting this tournament together. This will give everyone a chance to see Brad Webb shoot a 12 on hole number 14. I personally didn't think it could be done until he showed me that anything is possible. Way to suck! See you saturday.
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 26, 2002 09:32PM
Captain Justice takes care of little pixie girls like you Brian for talking trash. That one point lead in the standings will be wiped away this weekend.

BRAD
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 26, 2002 09:50PM
The only wiping will be of your tears as you get beat down like a little skank!...............Do you think Tiger Woods does this before any of his matches?
FIRST NAME LAST NAME DIVISION 1st - 54 2nd - 54 TOTAL +/- 108 PLACE PAYOUT
Doug Williams 1 - Pro Open 46 46 92 -16 1 $192
Philip Raymond 1 - Pro Open 46 48 94 -14 2 $116
Todd Alexander 1 - Pro Open 48 47 95 -13 3 $77
Scott Davis 1 - Pro Open 52 45 97 -11 4
Jeff Kleminsky 1 - Pro Open 50 50 100 -8 5
John Lintton 1 - Pro Open 50 51 101 -7 6
Jeff Reynolds 1 - Pro Open 54 50 104 -4 7
Chris Dunham 1 - Pro Open 51 53 104 -4 8
Chris Campbell 1 - Pro Open 53 56 109 1 9
Larry Hobock 1 - Pro Open 55 56 111 3 10
Ron Gay 1 - Pro Open 58 61 119 11 11
Kevin Lewis 2- Pro Master 49 48 97 -11 1 $105
Robbie Shaw 2- Pro Master 50 51 101 -7 2
Len Benfell 2- Pro Master 51 50 101 -7 3
Lori Mezger 3 - Pro Women 50 54 104 -4 1 $100
Beckey Farris 3 - Pro Women 67 68 135 27 2 $40
Stacey Morris 3 - Pro Women 65 72 137 29 3 $10
Tambra Kleminsky 3 - Pro Women 70 69 139 31 4
Barbara Daniels 3 - Pro Women 80 77 157 49 5
Gary Wagoner 4 - Pro GM 54 53 107 -1 1 $60
Danny Daniels 4 - Pro GM 62 57 119 11 2
David Coady 5 - Advanced 53 53 106 -2 1 $108
Rusty Berry 5 - Advanced 52 55 107 -1 2 $65
Dan Robertson 5 - Advanced 54 55 109 1 3 $43
Fair Hays 5 - Advanced 54 57 111 3 4
Bryan Griffin 5 - Advanced 58 54 112 4 5
Brad Webb 5 - Advanced 56 56 112 4 6
Brian Street 5 - Advanced 54 58 112 4 7
Kenny Collums 5 - Advanced 58 59 117 9 8
Robert Cassell 5 - Advanced 61 58 119 11 9
Jeff Haydel 6 - Amateur 54 55 109 1 1 $102
Daniel Minor 6 - Amateur 56 57 113 5 2 $62
Tim Bishop 6 - Amateur 59 58 117 9 3 $39
Stephen James 6 - Amateur 58 61 119 11 4 $25
David Lillibridge 6 - Amateur 59 61 120 12 5
Keith Pearson 6 - Amateur 58 63 121 13 6
Zack Hudson 6 - Amateur 60 65 125 17 7
Michael Smith 6 - Amateur 65 65 130 22 8
Charles Smith 6 - Amateur 63 67 130 22 9
John Wilkerson 6 - Amateur 62 70 132 24 10
Chris Palugi 6 - Amateur 68 71 139 31 11
Joe Pettit 6 - Amateur 74 72 146 38 12
Doo Ragg 7 - AM Master 57 59 116 8 1 $108
Herman Cochran 7 - AM Master 60 57 117 9 2 $65
Thom Garday 7 - AM Master 63 57 120 12 3 $43
Kevin Foster 7 - AM Master 60 60 120 12 4
Richard Maxwell 7 - AM Master 62 61 123 15 5
Ping Pong Paris 7 - AM Master 63 61 124 16 6
Russ Corey 7 - AM Master 61 63 124 16 7
Stan Tribble 7 - AM Master 64 65 129 21 8
Old Fair Hays 7 - AM Master 70 74 144 36 9
Tony Capwell 8 - Novice 59 61 120 12 1
Chris Hersley 8 - Novice 62 66 128 20 2
Debi Reynolds 8 - Novice 83 89 172 64 3
Chrystal Garcia 9 - AM Women 68 66 134 26 1
Beth Corey 9 - AM Women 72 72 144 36 2
Nancy Hobock 9 - AM Women 78 77 155 47 3
John Voyles Junior 71 72 143 35 1
$1,360
If anyone can tell me how to make this look better please do so. I have an html and a spreadsheet but the formatting transfer is beyond me.

Thanks to everyone (58 people) who played. It was great weather although a bit chilly in the shade. Thanks to Josh Patterson and all the Rangers who work to keep this course in great shape and accommodate us. And of course, thanks to Jim O for, well you know what, pretty much everything.
correction
John Linton 1 - Pro Open 50 51 101 -7 6
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 29, 2002 01:31AM
To make it look better, don't let people sign up for your tournament under the name Doo Rag :)
Assuming, of course, that isn't someone's birth name.
My wife and I would like to thank Doug and Kevin for running the Cossar Christmas Classic. Despite my worse than dismal performance, I had a good time. Cossar is a great course and possibly the most scenic course I've ever played. I definitely want to come back becuase I KNOW I can play better there. Just have to improve my wind game ;^)

Congrats to Doo Rag (don't even know his real name), Herman, Kevin, and the other Advanced Masters who gave me golf lessons!

Let's all hope the lake doesn't rise and we can come back in the summer.

RwC
2nd correction

Len Benfell 2- Pro Master 51 50 101 -7 2
Robbie Shaw 2- Pro Master 50 51 101 -7 3

There will be a third because I don’t have the AM Women payout at the moment
Corrected resultsResults of the 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic



FIRST NAME LAST NAME DIVISION 1st - 54 2nd - 54 TOTAL +/- 108 PLACE PAYOUT
Doug Williams 1 - Pro Open 46 46 92 -16 1 $192
Philip Raymond 1 - Pro Open 46 48 94 -14 2 $116
Todd Alexander 1 - Pro Open 48 47 95 -13 3 $77
Scott Davis 1 - Pro Open 52 45 97 -11 4
Jeff Kleminsky 1 - Pro Open 50 50 100 -8 5
John Linton 1 - Pro Open 50 51 101 -7 6
Jeff Reynolds 1 - Pro Open 54 50 104 -4 7
Chris Dunham 1 - Pro Open 51 53 104 -4 8
Chris Campbell 1 - Pro Open 53 56 109 1 9
Larry Hobock 1 - Pro Open 55 56 111 3 10
Ron Gay 1 - Pro Open 58 61 119 11 11
Kevin Lewis 2- Pro Master 49 48 97 -11 1 $105
Len Benfell 2- Pro Master 51 50 101 -7 2
Robbie Shaw 2- Pro Master 50 51 101 -7 3
Lori Mezger 3 - Pro Women 50 54 104 -4 1 $100
Beckey Farris 3 - Pro Women 67 68 135 27 2 $40
Stacey Morris 3 - Pro Women 65 72 137 29 3 $10
Tambra Kleminsky 3 - Pro Women 70 69 139 31 4
Barbara Daniels 3 - Pro Women 80 77 157 49 5
Gary Wagoner 4 - Pro GM 54 53 107 -1 1 $60
Danny Daniels 4 - Pro GM 62 57 119 11 2
David Coady 5 - Advanced 53 53 106 -2 1 $108
Rusty Berry 5 - Advanced 52 55 107 -1 2 $65
Dan Robertson 5 - Advanced 54 55 109 1 3 $43
Fair Hays 5 - Advanced 54 57 111 3 4
Bryan Griffin 5 - Advanced 58 54 112 4 5
Brad Webb 5 - Advanced 56 56 112 4 6
Brian Street 5 - Advanced 54 58 112 4 7
Kenny Collums 5 - Advanced 58 59 117 9 8
Robert Cassell 5 - Advanced 61 58 119 11 9
Jeff Haydel 6 - Amateur 54 55 109 1 1 $102
Daniel Minor 6 - Amateur 56 57 113 5 2 $62
Tim Bishop 6 - Amateur 59 58 117 9 3 $39
Stephen James 6 - Amateur 58 61 119 11 4 $25
David Lillibridge 6 - Amateur 59 61 120 12 5
Keith Pearson 6 - Amateur 58 63 121 13 6
Zack Hudson 6 - Amateur 60 65 125 17 7
Michael Smith 6 - Amateur 65 65 130 22 8
Charles Smith 6 - Amateur 63 67 130 22 9
John Wilkerson 6 - Amateur 62 70 132 24 10
Chris Palugi 6 - Amateur 68 71 139 31 11
Joe Pettit 6 - Amateur 74 72 146 38 12
Doo Ragg 7 - AM Master 57 59 116 8 1 $108
Herman Cochran 7 - AM Master 60 57 117 9 2 $65
Thom Garday 7 - AM Master 63 57 120 12 3 $43
Kevin Foster 7 - AM Master 60 60 120 12 4
Richard Maxwell 7 - AM Master 62 61 123 15 5
Ping Pong Paris 7 - AM Master 63 61 124 16 6
Russ Corey 7 - AM Master 61 63 124 16 7
Stan Tribble 7 - AM Master 64 65 129 21 8
Old Fair Hays 7 - AM Master 70 74 144 36 9
Tony Capwell 8 - Novice 59 61 120 12 1
Chris Hersley 8 - Novice 62 66 128 20 2
Debi Reynolds 8 - Novice 83 89 172 64 3
Chrystal Garcia 9 - AM Women 68 66 134 26 1 $30
Beth Corey 9 - AM Women 72 72 144 36 2 $18
Nancy Hobock 9 - AM Women 78 77 155 47 3 $9
John Voyles 10 - Junior 71 72 143 35 1
TOTAL $1,417


I’ll be glad to email the spreadsheet or html to anybody who wants it.

Other noteworthy facts:

Lori Mezger - just check out her score and compare it to the field. Everybody played the same holes.

Robert Cassell won the ace pot in a throw off when he doinked the front of the basket. He videoed everybody’s throw but, of course, his own.

Special thanks to Robert and Dan Robertson who helped DW & I with the running of the tourney.

Good karma seems to flow to tournament helpers.
Congradulations to Kevin Lewis on his 1st pro master win, thanks to Kevin and Doug for putting on the tournament. I know that running a tournament is often a thankless job, and I've heard Jim O. say that during a tournament or immediately after is not the time for criticism. So, I offer on this forum these issues for consideration in future tournaments. Issue 1 : consistency on % payouts: open men had 11 players, paid 3 places. open women, 5 players, paid 3 places. Issue 2 : number of players in a division: there were only 2 grandmasters, should a minimum of 3 players be required to constitute a division?
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 30, 2002 06:45AM
Robbie, I'm not presuming to speak for Kevin, but simply making an observation. Women's divisions are often paid deeper in an effort to attract and keep a greater number of women players participating in tournaments.

As for number of players required to hold a division, that's usually decided at the TD's discretion.
Re: The 2002 Cossar Christmas Classic
December 30, 2002 10:26AM
I'm not sure anyone really knows Doo Ragg's real name!!!! He is simply Doo Ragg (kinda like pigpen from Charlie brown)....actually rumor has it his name is Kevin.

Rock on Doo Ragg!!
Thank’s Robbie. It was my pleasure playing with you again and Len. I had a lot of luck. We finished 5th, 7th and 8th overall.

You certainly raise valid issues that torment me as well as some other issues. I can tell you that Goby pretty much hit it on the head as far as our decision on the Women’s payout. We went in to the tourney planning to pay strict top 3rd, meaning you have to have 6 to pay 2 etc. We varied that for the Women, both AM and Pro, because it just seemed like the right thing to do. I’m not exactly happy with that decision or unhappy with it. I only hope it has the desired effect.

We stuck by the 1/3 rule on the Open Pro’s because we saw no reason to change the plan. Maybe it’s a bad plan, but we are talking about the top players here. We talked about it again after the tourney. One analogy we thought of was the Olympics. Only the top 3 get anything, no matter how many compete. That would be a harsh rule for us. I would be interested in comparisons to other sports. Maybe someone who knows will share this information and add to this discussion.

As for the Grandmasters, we intended to require a minimum of 3 and then varied from that rule after the first round. We did not know what the count would be during sign-ups and it did not matter how many GM’s there would be until after the first round other than the $5 difference in entry fee. At that point we could have bumped them to masters, but charging them additional fee would not have been typical practice in my experience so that is not the issue. We could have bumped them with no additional fee charge. Perhaps we should have.

I don’t want it to sound like the decision was just mine but I certainly could have influenced a different decision heavily. I hate to admit my unfounded confidence but I was leading the Masters by 3 strokes. If we had bumped the 2 GM’s and then applied the strict 1/3 rule I would have received $165 instead of $105. I know it was foolish and maybe a bit too cocky, but frankly I expected to win the masters at that point. I had a problem with bumping them to serve my own financial interest. The leading GM certainly could have caught up but the other GM was more strokes behind. I asked the leading GM if it was ok not to bump them and he was ok with it. It is one of those inherent conflicts that exists when one plays and serves as or has influence with the TD on such decisions.

Now if there were strict rules that apply to these situations I would apply them without regard for the consequences, if I have to. Perhaps we violated some strict rules out of ignorance. Maybe Jim O will give us a ruling, but I will only make a decision that seems fair in the moment unless I know for sure some other decision is absolutely required. I don’t think we violated any standard practices for the wrong reasons. I know your comments were not intended to criticize, but rather to improve fairness in the future through discussion. I offer you what our decision making process was for that same purpose. Comments are appreciated.
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