Sorry to all those I told we would not be doing a Cossar tourney in December (especially Danny Daniels - if anybody knows how to reach him please do). Jim asked DW if he would do it and of course DW could not say no to a personal request from THE MAN. So they agreed to move it to after Christmas, 12/28. I am running around the web spreading the word however I can. E-mail me if you want a flyer (specify your favorite format - doc, htm)
It should also be posted on our web site soon.
Sweet! I am sure Danny reads the boards but I will make sure he knows about it as well as all of the Memphis players. Expect a big turn out from Memphis if the weather is nice. ( Hence...not raining and 33. ;D )
Thanks for the interest. We would love for you and anyone else to make it to the Cossar xmas tourney. From Iuka it looks like the easiest way to get there would be to go thru Oxford then to Batesville on I 55. From there go south on 55 15 miles to the Oakland exit. Go left and follow the signs.
This is 1 of the most scenic courses I have played. Nice water shots and varied terrain. Hope you choose to make it. See ya"ll then.
Just received a little info for folks coming to the Cossar Christmas Classic. Josh Patterson, Assistant Park Manager sent me the hole distances so I can now tell you it is 4,588 feet for an average hole distance of 255. Tournament score cards will show all the distances. He has also taken the initiative to contact the local newspaper and TV station about the event.
Josh says “I sent the info for the tournament to WTVA in Tupelo (Channel 9). I asked them if they might try and send someone to the park and take some shots for the nightly news. The sportscaster mailed me back and said they would definitely give us some plugs during the sports segment and they would try and send someone to the park to film and maybe talk to some of the players. This could really do a lot for the sport in this area of the state.”
Josh also advised “the Restaurant will be closed that day. The only time of the year they close is for 2 weeks at Christmas. As far as places to eat, just as you turn off of HWY 32 onto the park road there is a community store that serves short order food and also about 1/2 mile east of there is another store. If anyone expresses need for overnight lodging for Friday and/or Saturday night, we will have cabins and the bunk houses available. Cabins, there is a 2 night min. on reservations. Everything will have to be run from one of the picnic pavilions. The Visitor Center is rented for that day. I don't know if you have been here before, but this pavilion is located just off of holes 17 and 18.”
Let’s put on a good show and thank Josh for his effort.
Please give directions from p-cola to cossar there are some folks here at the blue angel course interested in attending your tournament including myself. Sounds like a pretty short course which is my kind of old fart course.
Hey Mike, Do you play Master or Advanced Master? The last event I want to , the PDGA tourney in B'Ham, I was the only advanced master and had to play with the young guys! I want to come but don't want to "donate" any more money than I have to ;^). If I get my car fixed and can get up early enough ( and have money left over, I hope to make it) RwC
Mike, from Pensacola take 98 west to Hattiesburg, 49 N to Jackson, then 55 N. Take a right on Hwy 32 which is about 10 - 15 minutes north of Grenada. Go about 2 or 3 miles on 32 and take a left where the park sign tells you to. Stay on this road straight into the park and keep going till you run out of road, park and play. It is going to be about 3 1/2 hours from Hattiesburg or 2 hours north of Jackson.
You can now see one of the trophys at our web site.
Thanks for putting this tournament together. This will give everyone a chance to see Brad Webb shoot a 12 on hole number 14. I personally didn't think it could be done until he showed me that anything is possible. Way to suck! See you saturday.
If anyone can tell me how to make this look better please do so. I have an html and a spreadsheet but the formatting transfer is beyond me.
Thanks to everyone (58 people) who played. It was great weather although a bit chilly in the shade. Thanks to Josh Patterson and all the Rangers who work to keep this course in great shape and accommodate us. And of course, thanks to Jim O for, well you know what, pretty much everything.
My wife and I would like to thank Doug and Kevin for running the Cossar Christmas Classic. Despite my worse than dismal performance, I had a good time. Cossar is a great course and possibly the most scenic course I've ever played. I definitely want to come back becuase I KNOW I can play better there. Just have to improve my wind game ;^)
Congrats to Doo Rag (don't even know his real name), Herman, Kevin, and the other Advanced Masters who gave me golf lessons!
Let's all hope the lake doesn't rise and we can come back in the summer.
Congradulations to Kevin Lewis on his 1st pro master win, thanks to Kevin and Doug for putting on the tournament. I know that running a tournament is often a thankless job, and I've heard Jim O. say that during a tournament or immediately after is not the time for criticism. So, I offer on this forum these issues for consideration in future tournaments. Issue 1 : consistency on % payouts: open men had 11 players, paid 3 places. open women, 5 players, paid 3 places. Issue 2 : number of players in a division: there were only 2 grandmasters, should a minimum of 3 players be required to constitute a division?
Robbie, I'm not presuming to speak for Kevin, but simply making an observation. Women's divisions are often paid deeper in an effort to attract and keep a greater number of women players participating in tournaments.
As for number of players required to hold a division, that's usually decided at the TD's discretion.
Thank’s Robbie. It was my pleasure playing with you again and Len. I had a lot of luck. We finished 5th, 7th and 8th overall.
You certainly raise valid issues that torment me as well as some other issues. I can tell you that Goby pretty much hit it on the head as far as our decision on the Women’s payout. We went in to the tourney planning to pay strict top 3rd, meaning you have to have 6 to pay 2 etc. We varied that for the Women, both AM and Pro, because it just seemed like the right thing to do. I’m not exactly happy with that decision or unhappy with it. I only hope it has the desired effect.
We stuck by the 1/3 rule on the Open Pro’s because we saw no reason to change the plan. Maybe it’s a bad plan, but we are talking about the top players here. We talked about it again after the tourney. One analogy we thought of was the Olympics. Only the top 3 get anything, no matter how many compete. That would be a harsh rule for us. I would be interested in comparisons to other sports. Maybe someone who knows will share this information and add to this discussion.
As for the Grandmasters, we intended to require a minimum of 3 and then varied from that rule after the first round. We did not know what the count would be during sign-ups and it did not matter how many GM’s there would be until after the first round other than the $5 difference in entry fee. At that point we could have bumped them to masters, but charging them additional fee would not have been typical practice in my experience so that is not the issue. We could have bumped them with no additional fee charge. Perhaps we should have.
I don’t want it to sound like the decision was just mine but I certainly could have influenced a different decision heavily. I hate to admit my unfounded confidence but I was leading the Masters by 3 strokes. If we had bumped the 2 GM’s and then applied the strict 1/3 rule I would have received $165 instead of $105. I know it was foolish and maybe a bit too cocky, but frankly I expected to win the masters at that point. I had a problem with bumping them to serve my own financial interest. The leading GM certainly could have caught up but the other GM was more strokes behind. I asked the leading GM if it was ok not to bump them and he was ok with it. It is one of those inherent conflicts that exists when one plays and serves as or has influence with the TD on such decisions.
Now if there were strict rules that apply to these situations I would apply them without regard for the consequences, if I have to. Perhaps we violated some strict rules out of ignorance. Maybe Jim O will give us a ruling, but I will only make a decision that seems fair in the moment unless I know for sure some other decision is absolutely required. I don’t think we violated any standard practices for the wrong reasons. I know your comments were not intended to criticize, but rather to improve fairness in the future through discussion. I offer you what our decision making process was for that same purpose. Comments are appreciated.