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Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 - 26 Nov 2011
Posted by DG Guy
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 03, 2011 03:29PM |
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Is this the final answer? I am trying to decide between this tourney and another one. I do not want to come to this one if it is going to be mixed divisions.
Robert 'Mac' Wrote:
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> We usually have mixed divisions for round one with
> everybody playing the Recreation tees. The second
> round will be division play with Pros from the
> long tees. There will also be a whole bunch of
> baskets moved between rounds. More to come later.
Bill Bullington
Robert 'Mac' Wrote:
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> We usually have mixed divisions for round one with
> everybody playing the Recreation tees. The second
> round will be division play with Pros from the
> long tees. There will also be a whole bunch of
> baskets moved between rounds. More to come later.
Bill Bullington
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 09, 2011 10:13AM |
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Since we support the juniors and nivice plaayers, we will more than likely haave a mixed division start. If no juniors or novice players register, we could go with the divisional start.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Thanks for asking!
Bill
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Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Thanks for asking!
Bill
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662-660-0339
Know what you throw. . .
. . . throw what you know!
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 09, 2011 10:18AM |
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 09, 2011 03:12PM |
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Jack C. Wrote:
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> Grass roots Should ALWAYS Mix the First round!!!
> It's about the FUN!!!
Want to get more players to move up? Stop mixing divisions. I have played up at least one division for years, I do this so I can play with better players. There is less reason to move up when half the event is played in a completely random group. When I play up, I have a good chance to play with the better players in the division I chose to play. With mixed cards, even when I play up I will only play with the players who played poorly the first round.
Bill Bullington
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> Grass roots Should ALWAYS Mix the First round!!!
> It's about the FUN!!!
Want to get more players to move up? Stop mixing divisions. I have played up at least one division for years, I do this so I can play with better players. There is less reason to move up when half the event is played in a completely random group. When I play up, I have a good chance to play with the better players in the division I chose to play. With mixed cards, even when I play up I will only play with the players who played poorly the first round.
Bill Bullington
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 09, 2011 05:28PM |
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wrong i have played ams for not even one year yet but i am moving up to pro and you wanna know y cuz of tournys like this i got to play with adv and pro players and they taught me things and now i feal i am at the level to hang with them now its up to us the better players to teach the ones just learning things that we have been taught, i mean its thanksgiving. give others the opportunity to watch play and learn thats what grows this sport. thats just my view its a 1 day tourny have fun with it.
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 09, 2011 10:22PM |
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If we are to grow this sport to anywhere near its pontential, we need to get young players intrested in the sport.
It is not abut the individual, but the community! We need to promote, not limit its growth.
Don't get me wrong, there are many events that do not recognize the Junior and Novice divisions, and you start the first round with your peers. I love these starts because you DO get to get your game on right away!
This event is more of a get together for the Disc Golf Family and Friends, very much what the Southern Nationals is all about! As the disc says:
"Wish you were Here!"
On another note, deductions for this event will be the $2 per player (except Juniors), $1 for the Plantation, and the price of the awards.
We will have Tip's Ole Southern Bar-B-Que there for your food concessions.
Later . .
Dg Guy - Disc GOlf Plaques & Awards
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 12:16AM |
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flickster, he can't really be wrong considering it is his opinion
I'm all for promoting and growing the sport and I play practice/casual rounds with all skill levels in an effort to do so. Practice/casual rounds serve the purpose of teaching newer players the ropes... Nearly all of these type rounds for me are spent with players of various skill levels and I enjoy teaching and helping others improve.
However, at some point, we are competing in a tournament for money, and I personally prefer to play in a group of my peers when competing in a tournament. You could still mix the amateur divisions, being those players are still learning the game themselves, but could still help those new to tournament play along.
Also, for this tournament, if we are mixing divisions, is it necessary for the Pros to play the Am tees? It should still be very reasonable that the Pros would still play the Pro tees and just tee off first on every hole. I personally do not enjoy playing tournament rounds were a 10 down is only an 'average' round at best. Last time I competed in this tournament, the Pro scores were -14, -14, -10, -10, -7 - Deuce or die to the extreme!
I'm all for promoting and growing the sport and I play practice/casual rounds with all skill levels in an effort to do so. Practice/casual rounds serve the purpose of teaching newer players the ropes... Nearly all of these type rounds for me are spent with players of various skill levels and I enjoy teaching and helping others improve.
However, at some point, we are competing in a tournament for money, and I personally prefer to play in a group of my peers when competing in a tournament. You could still mix the amateur divisions, being those players are still learning the game themselves, but could still help those new to tournament play along.
Also, for this tournament, if we are mixing divisions, is it necessary for the Pros to play the Am tees? It should still be very reasonable that the Pros would still play the Pro tees and just tee off first on every hole. I personally do not enjoy playing tournament rounds were a 10 down is only an 'average' round at best. Last time I competed in this tournament, the Pro scores were -14, -14, -10, -10, -7 - Deuce or die to the extreme!
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 03:44PM |
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Dustin, I played this tournament 2 years ago and the scores were as I listed above - 10 down being the hot round at the jungle and 10 down being an 'average' round from the shorts at Pickwick is a big difference
not to mention, the Jungle only has 1 set of tees, so we play what is there - at Pickwick, they at least have Pro tees that are more challenging and actually quite fun to play - it has never made sense to me in any tournament, why Pros would play Am tees, when Pro tees are available - sounds like an oxymoron to me...
the TD certainly has a right to do as he wants, its his tournament, his decisions - but most TDs want to satisfy the majority of the players, so if we don't share our opinions (in a constructive manner), then the TD doesn't not know what the players want - if my opinion on a topic is in the minority, then that is ok too, but players sometimes decide whether to attend a tournament or not based on what the TD decides
it doesn't mean I won't come to the tournament and still have a lot of fun, but I also like to come to tournaments to challenge myself and play competitive disc golf against other Pros
not to mention, the Jungle only has 1 set of tees, so we play what is there - at Pickwick, they at least have Pro tees that are more challenging and actually quite fun to play - it has never made sense to me in any tournament, why Pros would play Am tees, when Pro tees are available - sounds like an oxymoron to me...
the TD certainly has a right to do as he wants, its his tournament, his decisions - but most TDs want to satisfy the majority of the players, so if we don't share our opinions (in a constructive manner), then the TD doesn't not know what the players want - if my opinion on a topic is in the minority, then that is ok too, but players sometimes decide whether to attend a tournament or not based on what the TD decides
it doesn't mean I won't come to the tournament and still have a lot of fun, but I also like to come to tournaments to challenge myself and play competitive disc golf against other Pros
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 04:03PM |
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I was not trying to stir anything up here, just looking for info. I am considering 2 events on this date, most likely I will come to this one if I can compete within my division both rounds. I will definately not be coming if the cards are mixed.
I had planned to play Open, so if you decide to let pro play together both rounds please let me know.
Bill Bullington
I had planned to play Open, so if you decide to let pro play together both rounds please let me know.
Bill Bullington
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 06:28PM |
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 07:42PM |
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well does not matter to me which we play, i play AM div.. does not matter with me how it goes,
all im looking forward to is coming to play. this will be my first time to play it so pass some of that
stuffing .do like watching some of the pro's throw a putter further than i can throw a driver though..
all im looking forward to is coming to play. this will be my first time to play it so pass some of that
stuffing .do like watching some of the pro's throw a putter further than i can throw a driver though..
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Re: Pickwick Plantation Please Pass the Stuffing 2 November 10, 2011 08:46PM |
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Pro Pads, AM Pads, they all involve making shots that yield your best score. Sure most of the time every hole with a Pro Pad will have a higher degree of difficulty but mixing things up just means a player has to adapt and is that not what a Professional Player is expected to do. I hear the same stuff when its mentioned that the tournament will be played from the longs, only this is from the AMs. It should not hurt anyone to step outside their comfort zone and adapt, lets a person find out about themselves. I have no preferences what so ever the TD decides will be great and I hope to show up and play the game I am capable of based on what and how I adapt to the conditions of the day.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2011 08:47PM by Ricco Suavez.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2011 08:47PM by Ricco Suavez.
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