they were not posted.....

From T-bo:

"Scroll down past the maps toward the bottom of this page. They have first and second round results for Pool B and no results for Pool
A

[www.eatsleepdisc.com]"

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Keith "Sunshine" B

bugle04 Wrote:
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> Why is the leader of am playing am when he placed
> second in advanced at a tournament in march. Not
> trying to start an argument. Just would like to
> know if there is a legitimate reason or is he
> playing in the wrong division.

It was a trophy only event.

Dustin L - adv men champion
Colin purser - am men champion
B-hole - adv master champion
Danny self - adv grandmaster champion
Dee dee F - am women champion
Gavin Finch - jr champion

Thank you Dillon.

I guess I was wrong.......bhole can bag from 9 back after all!!!

9 1/2 if he was counting by his fingers

Way to go Playground Disc Golf Club members Dustin and DeeDee...we are all so proud of you!!! And to all PDGC/FWB Players....nicely done :-)

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Teresa Key
KEY CHAINS DISC GOLF
Fort Walton Beach, FL

Way to go Gavin and B hole..... Couldn't get on eatsleepdisc havent reached some kind of limit. Snac should be listed on this forum... Just my opinion...

RANDEYE
pdga#7250

Advanced (39) GW (72) Carter (57) Indigo (55) GW (27) (Par 211)

Dustin Lemasters 66 51 55 21 193
Robby Harris 67 52 57 25 201
Phillip Moore 70 53 53 27 203
Andrew Montgomery 68 56 54 25 203
Ethan Warren 64 55 59 27 205
Aaron Sims 63 57 59 26 205
Steven Burge 62 62 56 25 205
Hanan Browning 65 60 55 25 205
Lee Davison 62 57 61 26 206
James Blanchard 67 57 58 26 208
Bryan Holyfield 71 54 57 26 208
Bear Faulkner 66 60 58 25 209
Dustin Keith 63 60 58 29 210
Blake Dyas 67 57 60 26 210
Kirby Powers 74 54 56 28 212
Did not make final 9
Philip Tait 67 59 59 185
John Key 71 57 57 185
Travis Reynolds 63 62 61 186
Joey Polk 66 61 60 187
Josh Lenox 72 57 58 187
Josh David 68 58 62 188
Tyler Stacy 70 61 57 188
Damon Sullivan 70 63 55 188
Rob Finch 68 58 63 189
Jeremy Butler 71 56 62 189
Mo Weems 72 56 63 191
Bryant Anderson 66 63 62 191
Chuck Finch 70 60 62 192
Derek Drew 72 65 55 192
Tim Liggett 71 62 63 196
Clifton Byd 67 61 70 198
James Wood 77 65 57 199
Matthew Gardner 67 69 64 200
William Lloyd Wilkins 68 68 64 200
Chip Strain 72 56 999 999
Dillon Gourley 74 63 999 999
DJ Rushlow 77 999 999 999
Josh Ehmke 999 999 999 999
Chris Pierce 999 999 999 999


Advanced Masters (22)
Brian Bakewell 71 65 57 24 217
Shannon Flory 70 61 61 26 218
Stevie Shaw 73 61 56 29 219
Chad Rousee 67 63 62 28 220
Stephen Harrison 68 65 60 27 220
Tony Palmer 72 63 59 26 220
Billy Big Foot Drake 73 61 61 27 222
Cullen Wilson 73 60 59 32 224
Did not make final 9
Brooks Newell 69 62 66 197
David Robinson 66 61 72 199
Michael Alan Smith 72 62 65 199
Joe Lambert 69 71 59 199
Joe Jacobson 76 66 59 201
Kevin Psycho White 74 61 68 203
Mike Bennett 79 66 61 206
Kevin Breed 78 65 65 208
Leon Irby 75 69 72 216
JC Cannon 82 72 64 218
Noel Downey 82 73 72 227
Joseph Burback 999 999 999 999
Daniel Zich (NP) 999 999 999 999
Zach Hudson 999 999 999 999

Advanced Grand Masters (5)
Danny Self 66 60 62 29 217
Henry Tindall 71 63 60 26 220
Did not make final 9
Lamar Futch 75 62 60 197
Kevin Reilly 71 62 999 1132
Larry Mease 80 77 999 1156

Amateur Women (16)
Dee Dee Fussner 74 69 67 31 241
Krystin Nowicki 81 70 61 32 244
Katie Cunningham 77 68 68 31 244
Pazlee Walker 81 68 72 36 257
Sara Senkbeil 82 72 81 33 268
Melissa Skelton 83 76 77 33 269
Catina Roberts 84 77 82 34 277
Ronda Key 85 77 81 35 278
Did not make Final 9
Cristin Bolt 86 78 82 246
Cassie Harris 92 82 75 249
Kyndall Reynolds 90 80 80 250
Angela Irby 93 82 87 262
Nicole Ellis 91 89 87 267
Robyn Tindall 95 82 94 271
Ashley Barrier 101 999 xx 1100
Celicia Trotter 999 999 xx 1998
JR (4)
Gavin Finch 76 64 62 30 232
Ian Krajna 79 68 63 28 238
Did not make final 9
Keith Osborne III 84 74 77 235
Gerren Wasden 999 999 xx 1998

Amateur (94) Cater (57) Indigo (55) GW (72) GW (27) Par (211)
Collin Purser 53 55 68 26 202
Jason Outlaw 56 56 68 26 206
Pat Michaelopoulos 57 56 69 25 207
Stewart Garner 55 60 68 24 207
Codey Faircloth 55 62 68 23 208
Trey Duke 55 66 67 21 209
Russell Gray 60 59 67 24 210
Blake McCrary 53 64 70 23 210
Peter Van Brussel 62 57 66 27 212
Leland Hanford 53 60 71 29 213
Thomas Kelton 58 56 71 28 213
Frankie Harber 55 56 75 27 213
Chris Hawkins 58 56 74 25 213
Louis Yarborough 59 59 71 24 213
Tony Sanders 56 62 68 28 214
Corey Frink 57 62 70 25 214
Rob Hastings 59 56 72 28 215
Taylor Leblanc 60 61 68 26 215
Kenny Keasler 60 63 66 26 215
Matt Norris 53 63 74 25 215
Mark Martin 60 60 71 24 215
Charles Sherbert 64 57 66 29 216
Joey Downey 64 61 64 27 216
Josh Greene 58 58 76 24 216
Jeff Waters 59 57 71 30 217
Ben McQueary 57 60 70 30 217
Justin Littrell 60 60 71 26 217
Chris Downey 59 61 72 25 217
Jason Kimbell 58 64 70 25 217
Jeremy Muniz 59 63 68 28 218
Sean Palmer 62 60 70 26 218
Alan Adkins 64 55 72 28 219
Johnny King 63 56 73 27 219
Clifford Smith 63 59 71 27 220
Josh Brigan 61 60 71 29 221
Chris Casey 58 62 72 30 222
Jason Weaver 62 62 73 25 222
Marc Flanders 63 64 68 28 223
Mike Dozier 66 55 75 27 223
Chris Quinn 59 63 74 27 223
Brandon Locke 60 67 70 26 223
Keith Osborne 60 62 74 28 224
Timothy Ryan Overpeck 63 59 74 29 225
(Did Not Make Final 9)
Caleb Huber 59 60 79 198
Daniel Johnson 62 62 74 198
Kevin Dohoney 60 64 74 198
Chris Roberts 62 64 72 198
Steven Solomon 60 66 72 198
Chris Sigler 64 65 69 198
Matt Coxwell 60 65 75 200
Wes Latham 65 61 74 200
Bobby George 63 65 72 200
Kevin Anderson 68 61 71 200
Tommy Browning 59 65 77 201
Mason McKay 68 57 76 201
Scott Schulz 61 63 78 202
David Ehmke 66 59 77 202
Blaine Downs 61 65 76 202
Brad Allen 66 61 75 202
Conor Bently 65 63 74 202
Bayne Weaver 64 65 73 202
John Capps 65 65 72 202
Greg Blackwell 63 64 76 203
Michael Moxley 64 62 78 204
James Glisson 63 64 77 204
Steven "Roy" Adkins 65 62 78 205
Shane Hughes 63 64 78 205
Chris Mullins 65 68 72 205
Jason Volo 61 68 78 207
Ben Swam 67 64 78 209
Chad Cobb 69 65 76 210
Lewis McElderry 69 65 76 210
Brad Goodman 70 62 81 213
Jake Owen 71 69 73 213
Joey Harber 73 60 81 214
Will Payne 64 69 83 216
Bryan Drewery 67 64 86 217
Jeremy Rester 73 66 80 219
Dan Mckinney 70 73 78 221
Daniel Roberts 74 71 76 221
Toby Riley 71 70 87 228
Daryl Irons 61 999 999 999
Joseph Seboldt 65 999 999 999
Willie Matlock 67 59 999 999
Austin Barnes 999 999 999 999
Danny Newton 999 999 999 999
Garrett Hayes 999 999 999 999
Jason Service 999 999 999 999
Jeremiah Blackmon 999 999 999 999
Jeremy Davis 999 999 999 999
Matt Maddox 999 999 999 999
Richard Brown 999 999 999 999
Shan Trotter 999 999 999 999
Taylor Trimble 999 999 999 999

Good job esd, enjoyed the whole weekend.

So much for the naysayers ?

I lost a white Aviar at Inverness on Saturday.

It has my initials JEK and PDGA #(19226) on the bottom.

If anyone found it, I would really, really like to get it back.

Thanks.

I also lost a 150 Flick in tree on hole 4 George Ward and left a yellow snac star Whippet while practicing in field at Indiglo. It was right in open on fairway in open and neither werent turned in..... Had a blast even in the rain. Indiglo is one awesome challenging course!

BIGFOOT lives !

I had an awesome time this weekend, had some pretty cool guys on my card every round! Indigo is going to be a top notch course in a few years when it gets beat down a little bit more. It was a very challenging yet fun course.

My only complaint is the very short lunch break Pool B got on Sunday. I only had 15-20 minutes to eat a sandwich and warm up

Buzzz > Roc

Lost a red Champion Valkyrie with a biohazard stamp at InDiGo on Friday, hole 5, I think.......hit my first ace with this disc and would LOVE to get it back. If anyone came across it, please IM me. I am willing to send $$ to get it back!!!!!

Brad Allen

OH YEAH, Had a GREAT time. Very well organized. Player party was fun in the brew warehouse (thanks Good People). Courses were great and extremely challenging (I'm talking about you, InDiGo). Can't wait to find out where next year is going to be!!!! Thanks to everyone at Eat Sleep Disc!!!!

I assuming y'all had 10 no shows in the division?

Yeah, there were a fwe logistical issues I noted. I will mention them now, not as a complaint but just good natured feedback. I'm very thankful for the effort and energy put out by the Birmingham crew and all the sponsors and I greatly enjoyed the weekend. I would go back to another event hosted by B'ham in a heartbeat!

1. Next tee signs, Greg Carter. It wasn't a big deal for the tournament, as you could follow the group ahead of you, but for those of us that got there a day or two early to warm up, we found ourselves occasionally wondering down bike/walking paths and searching for the next tee as there were multiple paths to follow. Might be helpful with Championship tourney's to remember that people will be showing up early to scout your courses.

2. Indigo. This course has great potential, but it bordered on dangerous with the steep slopes. I really felt bad for the older guys and gals and I know there were at least 2 injuries due to the steep terrain. I have no idea how you could fix this, but it is worth considering.

3. Too many blind shots = slow play. There were a lot of back ups at Carter and Indigo simply due to the incredible amount of blind shots. Blind shots are obviously part of the game, but limiting the number you utilize for a championship tournament is probably wise. Blind shots slow progress because you're not certain the hole is clear and guys may want to walk up the fairway to scout their line.

4. I'm not sure how it went for Pool A, but Pool B's players meeting Saturday morning started like this: "Ok everybody, glad to see you here, we're going to go over the OB's and get you out to your boxes." Really? This is a championship event, people have traveled a long way and invested a lot of time and money. Kick it up a notch! At least start with "I'd like to welcome everyone to the annual Southern National Amateur Championships....etc, etc." I know people will criticize this point because it sounds all "touchy feely," but it's a big, big tournament and a little grandstanding is very appropriate IMHO.

5. Opening prayer. Pool B's player's meeting was concluded with an opening prayer......that was the first opening prayer I can remember at a discgolf tournament. I am very happy for people who find comfort in religion but I do not think that a player's meeting is the appropriate place for it. Many, many DG'ers are not of the Christian religion or any religion, we should respect that and not make prayer a group activity at the player's meeting. If the TD wants to pray for the safety of the players for the weekend, that's fine. But he/she should do it privately. I feel certain that god will still listen to his plea, though it be made discreetly.

6. Closing ceremonies needs amplification! At big tournaments there are a lot of players and, as we all know, discgolfers have BIG mouths. It was really hard to hear any of the names being called out. Most parks have some sort of electricity available and I feel certain that there was an outlet at the pavilion Sunday. TD's, for big tournaments try to get some sort of PA, karaoke machine, something. If you can't get someone to loan you one you can rent them from a number of places for very little money. Again, people play all year, get hotels, spend lots of money, and travel a long way for Championship tournaments; don't gloss over the opening and closing ceremonies. I'm not expecting Bejing Olympics type stuff, but it should be a little more celebrated that your average tournament.

As I said at the beginning, I was very happy and appreciated everything the B'ham crew did. I only make this post in the spirit of helping us (SNDG) make proper corrections to make our sport and our championships even better than they already are. I hope that part of the message doesn't get lost. I hope that this doesn't start a flurry of angry posts by poor sports who are looking for something to complain about. And I hope that whatever discussion follows this post is done with tact and civility. If the following discussion devolves into a series of angry hate-filled posts I certainly do not condone them or identify with their sentiment.



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Well I happen to have really enjoyed the prayer. Maybe non Christian golfers should respect that. If you didnt like the prayer you could have walked away! But its funny as Christians, you expect us to keep silent and respect you but in turn you dont repect us and our beliefs. If someone is talking about something I disagree with I will walk away.

Easy guys lol lets not start that debate.

Back on snac topic. As a member of pool A we had a great opening meeting. We had long rounds butbthat was to be expected an wanted in a championship format. Really no complaints for the courses other then 2. 1, indigondoes need some saftey messasures put in on some of the holes.. like the walk from 2-3. I couldn't imagine trying to walk that in any kind of wet weather. An 2, I wish we would of ended on a harder course. Having the lead going into Ward u weren't in any real risk of doing anything to screw that up. But if you went into the final with the lead in say indigo.. oh my u would of been nervous. Granted the field would not of been able to make up ground like Ward... but the errors u made on Ward was not nearly as costly as the errors you would of made in indigo.

That's bout all I have to say on it. Was my last am tourney an I enjoyed the hell out of it! Look forward to getting my but stomped in advanced this season.

PS. Typing on my phone so if any words don't look right ;) that's why lol.

Heard the tourney was a blast!!!



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HB1 Wrote:
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> I'm not expecting Bejing Olympics type
> stuff, but it should be a little more celebrated
> that your average tournament.


I hope nobody from London reads this forum...they would be totally offended!

You misunderstand me Head. I don't want Christians to be silent, and if another player wanted to pray or cross himself or whatever, I could care less. What if the TD had been Muslim and asked the group to join him in appealing to Allah for protection? What if he had been Pagan and asked the group to join him in the sacrifice of a small animal? What if he had been a Scientologist and asked us to join him in meditation to eradicate the ghost spirits that were contaminating our souls?

I don't think the organizers of a SN event (or any discgolf event) should ever hold a rite or ritual at a tournament that offers the non-religious or people of other religions with the option of A) conformity or B) isolation.

For the record, I did walk away (as did several others). And when it was all done, I was standing apart from most of my fellow discgolfers. Why put people in that awkward position when the appeal (prayer) could have just as easily been made to God in private? The answer to "why" it was made in public and not in private is also the reason that I found it off-putting.

So what did you do in school when they prayed or had a moment of silence? Or what about the pledge of allegiance? Did you walk out of the classroom?

I think it is a great thing that they prayed.

Jacob Brown
University of Mobile, Mobile Al

Your playing disc golf in the bible belt......Welcome. Glad they had the prayer.

I really don't want to get into defending every strawman argument that gets raised, but needless to say, teachers didn't allow you to walk out of class when I was in school; plus I was in the religion back then, so I didn't care.

I'm good with a moment of silence. "Moments of silence" are great and allow the crowd to observe in their own way without feeling isolated.

If what comes out of this discussion is that TD's decide to substitute "moments of silence" for opening prayers I would find that to be an incredibly sensible comprimise.

I hate to belabor this point but God does hear an individuals prayers, right? So why does it need to be performed as a group ritual? Group rituals, by their very definition, isolate those who do not belong to the group. The group, in this case, was Discgolfers, not Christians.

We shouldn't infuse anything into the discgolf community that will isolate certain members. We don't stand for sexist, lude behavior because it would isolate female golfers. Likewise, we shouldn't have Christian group rituals led by tournament directors because, in spite of the intent, they isolate golfers of different beliefs.

We should maintain a conformity of behavior that makes all people of every sex, race, and creed feel welcome. We should be in the business of doing things that unify and strengthen the discgolf community, not segment it or isolate certain members.

Pray on every teebox, listen to christian music in the parking lot, carry a bible in your bag; I don't care. But don't ask the discgolf community to join you in your religious ceremonies.

Smoking weed and drinking does not welcome a lot of folks, and is one reason why this sport can not be taken seriously......I think that should be done away with before prayer before the round...

I agree with Dustin. My first tournament I almost never came back because of how many people were literally drunk. And even if someone says " do you care if i smoke" thats still not cool cuz most will not want to piss the other person off by saying yes . i care. Getting off subject but just wanted to say it.

Jacob Brown
University of Mobile, Mobile Al

Other then the fact that I lost my game somewhere before we arrived in Birmingham, I had a blast. ESD did an awesome job. Thanks to everyone who helped with this event. :)

I agree that marijuana usage and drinking do isolate some folks as well. So does profanity. Which is why even though I usually cuss like a sailor, I try to curb it completely or do it under my breath during tournament rounds. Just trying to be considerate to the fact that I'm playing with people of different backgrounds and beliefs. So see, Head, I do respect you and your beliefs :)